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  • Eyesore-'98 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    This build isn't going to go in the direction of a typical build you would see on StanceWorks. It has a decent amount of power so I am looking to get a good fit on the wheels while not sacrificing grip at all. I would also like to take the car in a direction of OEM+ like I try to do for most of my cars. The cars I am interested in usually catch my eye because I like the factory styling of them and appreciate what the designers and engineers were trying to accomplish from the factory. This car is no exception. The final Talon bodystyle was definitely the most aggressive of them all, and the one that stood out the most of any DSM to roll of the assembly line.

    I bought this car from a good friend of mine that has owned it for nearly the last 10 years. He and I went to high school together and when he was looking to upgrade from his '95 Eclipse RS back then I found him this car. It was either this or a 2gb Eclipse, and with some prodding he decided on this car. Over the next 10 years he modded the car and did a very thorough job keeping up on the maintenance. He went through a motor and two transmissions (among other things) before parking it 4 years ago to focus on more important things in life. Last fall he finally decided it was time to let the car go. It was listed for quite a few months before I made the decision to pick it up. I couldn't let a car that had so much history and care go to someone who wouldn't appreciate it.

    The plan for the car is to clean it up, fix the transmission and a few other things and turn it into a fun summer DD. I'll copy some of the pictures and mods from the for sale ad to bring the car up to date with my purchase.













    - Motor -
    Motor and head are pretty much stock 2gb
    Bottom end was been rebuilt with new factory pistons, rings and bearings
    all new timing components
    stock 2g head with valve job at time of rebuild
    revised 2g lifters
    RRE Oil catch can
    HKS 272 cams and adjustable cam gears
    Evo 3 Intake manifold
    1150 FIC injectors with unnamed fuel rail on E85 fuel
    Walbro 255 fuel pump with rewire relay kit (for constant 12v)
    Megasquirt 2 standalone fuel management system
    zetronix wideband o2 sensor tied into megasquirt


    - Random -
    Stuart Warner Boost gauge, shift light, and EGT gauge (not currently hooked up, never wanted to tap the T3 manifold)
    DDM Tuning 9006 HID retrofit kit
    HKS Turbo Timer custom mounted in dash (not working with megasquirt)
    Aftermarket radio/cd player
    100% Full interior, nothing was ever removed


    - Bolt ons -
    ETS 7" tall street intercooler kit with short route ic pipes all powercoated black
    Tial 50mm BOV with 12" vac spring not recirculated
    Borg Warner S256 ETT with PTP turbo blanket
    Turbonetics T3 manifold
    Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate with open dump o2 housing
    custom 3" exhaust turbo back with no cat/resonator
    4" custom turbo inlet with replaceable filter


    - Drivetrain -
    95 TRE Stage 1.5 built trans with taller 5th gear (currently broken will detail below)
    95 Transfer case
    ACT 2600lb full street disk
    Fidanza lightweight flywheel with newer surface disk
    stock axles and diff
    B&M short throw shifter - also still have stock shifter
    energy suspension motor/trans mounts


    - Suspension/brakes -
    Tokico illumina 5 way adjustable shocks
    H&R sport lowering springs
    Motegi DP10 17" rims with Toyo Proxie 4 tires
    Crossdrilled and slotted front rotors with premium ceramics all around


    - Fluids -
    Engine - 10w40 Royal Purple
    Trans - Redline MT90
    Rear Diff - 75w90 Royal Purple
    Last edited by cheaptalon; 03-31-2016, 09:18 AM.

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    Welcome sir, the dsm platform is a lot of fun and definitely looks good with a nice wheel, tire, and suspension setup. I would recommend an 18x9.5 all the way around with offset in the 30s since it sounds like you want to run a meaty tire setup for grip. A proper fender job should allow you to run a 255 or 265 which should be more than enough grip. Front fenders roll very easily but the rears are super thick, I would recommend cutting and grining(shaving) them.
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    • #3
      4G63t ftw

      my brother-in-law had a very low 2gb talon in red for quite a while, unfortunately killed by a giant ice chunk to the oilpan

      i'll be watching
      conversion syndicate*

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      • #4
        Originally posted by EricT93 View Post
        Welcome sir, the dsm platform is a lot of fun and definitely looks good with a nice wheel, tire, and suspension setup. I would recommend an 18x9.5 all the way around with offset in the 30s since it sounds like you want to run a meaty tire setup for grip. A proper fender job should allow you to run a 255 or 265 which should be more than enough grip. Front fenders roll very easily but the rears are super thick, I would recommend cutting and grining(shaving) them.
        An 18x9.5 with a tire that size would be great, but probably a little a too aggressive for me. I'll be going with an 18x8.5 et30 with some 245/40/18's.

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        • #5
          First things first with the car was waking her from her winter slumber. A friend of mine has a lot of property and was kind enough to let me put it in his barn for the winter. Before closing the doors on her for winter I bought some Fluid Film and went to town on all the usual spots that 2g DSM's get rusty. I would highly recommend this product to anyone who plans on owning their car for a long period of time that really cares about it.

          A terrible pic of it packed into the bar. It was literally 2 inches away from an RV parked end to end with another RV. He has like 6 cars, 2 RV's and a sailboat in just this barn for winter.



          It took us about 45 minutes to get the car started because the battery was dead. I hooked it up to my daily with some cables, but it was cold out, the current AFPR is garbage, and it had old e85 in it. Eventually she fired though and I was able to limp her back to my house. Stopped at the gas station on the way back to top her off and grab a bite to eat.



          Once home I made use of my extra set of hands and put my new hood struts on. These might be a small item but are definitely one of my favorite mods ever on a car. Not only do they look good, but they also allow easier movement around the engine bay.





          More to come!
          Last edited by cheaptalon; 03-31-2016, 09:40 AM.

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          • #6
            Looks great! Too bad it's the last model year for the Talon. Was a great platform.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cruuz View Post
              4G63t ftw

              my brother-in-law had a very low 2gb talon in red for quite a while, unfortunately killed by a giant ice chunk to the oilpan

              i'll be watching
              Thanks man. The 4g really is a stout motor. I'm shooting for 400ish whp on the stock block.

              Originally posted by TWM Performance View Post
              Looks great! Too bad it's the last model year for the Talon. Was a great platform.

              - Renato
              You're right, the 3rd gen Eclipse was a huge disappointment. I used to own a 1g a while ago. I think the pop-up cars are still my favorite.

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              • #8
                Got a few more fixes to add. Real upgrades will be coming soon.

                I'm mainly going for a stock interior, so all these gauges, radio, floor mats, etc had to go. First one was the radio. Not a bad unit, but doesn't really flow with the interior.



                I scored a stocker from a '95 turbo car on Ebay to put in. Mitsubishi/Infinity were really ahead of the curve with this. Equalizer, CD changer input, tape deck, but most importantly and AUX input. Now I can plug in my iPod/iPhone and jam to tunes.



                Next was the gauge overlay. I suppose it was nice that it was real carbon, but without anything else being carbon in the interior it looked a little out of place. Plus the car has been missing the clear plastic cover. Without the cover the gauges get dusty and the cluster just looks incomplete. I yanked the carbon, scraped off all the glue that held it on, and tossed on a plastic cover I scored at the junkyard.



                Now we're talking.



                The center arm rest had a broken latch that instantly bothered me once I discovered it. Another trip to the junkyard yielded me a replacement one in good shape.



                Remove arm rest, install latch, reinstall arm rest. Good as new!



                Another junkyard score was a cargo net and some anchors. My car had anchors on the side of the trunk, but none on the rearmost portion. I grabbed some brackets that go behind the plastic, and the plastic covers. Unfortunately the covers I got had busted tabs, so I lined them up with my good ones and drilled some holes for the mounting stud.

                Junkyard (top), mine (bottom)



                After drilling the holes I secured the plastic back and now have different anchor points for the net depending on what I need to hold down. Right now the net just sits in the middle. (This thing really needs a good vacuuming.)



                That's all for today. I'll be pulling the trans this weekend to send out to get fixed. ECU will be getting pulled as well to get socketed for ECMlink. For now I'll just leave you with a teaser of the wheels/tires. She'll definitely need a roll/pull!

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                • #9
                  Good to see people keeping these alive!
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                  • #10
                    Planned on pulling the trans this weekend. Michigan decided otherwise.

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                    • #11
                      Sheesh snow in April

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                      • #12
                        Big things coming for the car in the next couple weeks. I am pushing to make Eyes On Design in Detroit in a month. It is an invite-only show with a lot of really high end cars so I have to make sure this lowly little Eagle is in tip-top shape. She currently looks like this:

                        The part-out begins. #justkidding #bodywork #touchup #fmic #turbo #dsm #eagletalon #showseason

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                        • #13
                          Looks so clean! Can't wait to see the wheels.

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                          • #14
                            car looks good man. im from the mitten too, i live in portage (kzoo)


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                            • #15
                              Time for an update! Went through a big push and got a lot of things done to the car. I'm happy to say it is running now and I'm enjoying putting some miles on it. I'll start with some of the interior stuff that I have done.

                              Couldn't find a gauge pod I liked so I had to make one. I wanted something that didn't stick out like a sore thumb and that didn't obstruct vision of the gauge cluster or through the windshield. I also only wanted to run a boost gauge and nothing else. So I chopped up the factory column, bought a cheap single pod off eBay, and went to work.





                              It is slightly off center so I can see the full speedo and most of the tach. When sitting in the car is actually covers less than in the picture.



                              Being that I am picky I had Autometer make me a custom gauge too. I looks pretty much identical to the factory gauge cluster, and is lit with a red LED. That said, my cluster is currently orange bulbs but I will be swapping them out to red LED in the future.



                              Next on the list was getting rid of this awful B&M shifter. The previous owner grenaded the transmission due to his driving habits, and I think this thing had a lot to do with it. The shifter pretty much made you shift on "kill" mode at all times whether you wanted to or not because the throw was so short.

                              I was fortunate to find someone willing to pay me money for it. I was ready to throw it in the garbage.



                              PO kept most of the parts he upgraded, so after digging through some boxes I found the stock shifter. A buddy of mine built a jig to cut down the stock shifter anywhere from .5" to 1.5" so he cut it and tig'd it back together for me. I also made a call to JNZ tuning and bought all new bushings for the stock shifter assembly. Now she's tight like a tiger!





                              Top it off with a NOS leather shift knob.



                              I was doing my normal junkyard hunting when I came across a 4g Eclipse. If I find nicer/newer Mitsu cars I pillage them for hardware that looks nice and isn't all rusty. While grabbing some interior screws/bolts I noticed the car had a red plastic hood release. Since I always get pissed that I can't find the one on my Talon I nabbed it in hopes it fit since it looked the same. It does! I kinda like the contrast it gives the interior too. I'm such a ricer sometimes.





                              Once I got the interior back together I was very eager to try out the radio. Turns out I needed a code. I had to call 8 dealerships before I got a guy willing to help me out. Some told me they can no longer look it up, others told me I had to pay/come in, one transferred me to parts and then service and then I hung up. The final one the guy had it for me in less than 30 seconds. After that the radio powered up but didn't have sound. Turns out the car has a factory Infinity amp that wasn't plugged in under the seat and I didn't plug into the back of the stereo since I didn't know it was there. Still didn't work. After fiddling with some buttons I finally got sound and can jam to my iPod on the sweet factory AUX input.



                              Too bad I get almost no radio reception because I ditched the factory antenna for a shorty. I'll take the trade off since this looks good and lines up perfectly with my factory spoiler.



                              There is plenty more to update but I this is enough for tonight. I tend to be long-winded so I'll stop here for now and pick up the rest tomorrow.

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