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Old 02-03-2013, 09:51 PM   #1
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Default 1984 Mercedes 500SEL Euro

Well it all started a couple weeks ago, I was decently drunk at my computer at about 1am on a weeknight. I thought "I wonder what kind of old Mercedes are around right now, and I wonder what I can get for under $2k." Sure enough, one of the first cars I find on craigslist is this one. I talked to the PO and learned the car's story, and figured it would be worth the plunge. It was from Duluth, a city in Northern MN, so I was getting ready to figure out how to pick it up. Turns out the PO also owns a tow company and trailered it to my work the following Friday without batting an eye. It was awesome.

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So I ended up driving it straight to the shop, in the rain. I found out the hard way that the wiper arms were broken and in the trunk. The mechanical issues I noticed right away were

- Rough idle + hesitation at take off, as described by PO
- Very loose control arm or similar front suspension part
- 10 year old tires
- Front end needs a drop ^_^


Some broken nipples (origin unknown) by the ICV






Here's the throttle body plate that needed to be adjusted down. The TB actually sits underneath this diaphragm. You can also see tons of jacked up vacuum lines.






Some ghetto stuff... always fun






More broken vacuum lines






So for the past couple weeks, it's been at my go-to deep discount shop (Firestone) getting looked over whenever they have the time. They adjusted the TB valve and stitched the vacuum lines back together, but told me they're done looking at the engine after dealing with that job. This week they'll finish up the control arm issue and brake inspection, and I'll drive it to the body shop. As far as cosmetic/exterior problems, it's pretty clean so I'd like to address the body right away too. This will all be done before summer:

- The car has a US front bumper now, I ordered a Euro set that will need paint.
- The AMG spoiler on the trunk has some weird damage that I'd like to take care of. Also the '560SEL' badge on the trunk is wrong for the car, so I'll have to take that off and repaint the trunk along with that.
- Right front fender has a rusty gouge. Same thing with the left quarter panel by the tail light. Both are minor, but hey, the car is black so why not fix them!
- It will also be PDRed at some point during paint/buffing



It has plenty of maintenance history, which is good..






Updates coming soon!
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:11 PM   #2
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This car is enormous holy crap. Looks good though.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #3
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This car is enormous holy crap. Looks good though.
haha, I know, it's great. It has functional power reclining back seats.

Keep in mind that the wheels on it are 16s, not typical of a modern car this big. It rides amazing on the freeway though.
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where in MN are you at?
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:08 AM   #5
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where in MN are you at?
Minneapolis, Lake Calhoun. Know the place then, I assume?
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im currently in the apple valley burnsville metro area
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:18 AM   #7
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im currently in the apple valley burnsville metro area
Ah, cool, maybe 20 minutes away from me. Sorry the weather isn't very Floridian right now
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:41 AM   #8
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I'll swap you headlights. Lol, I've always wanted a set like those.


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haha, I know, it's great. It has functional power reclining back seats.

Keep in mind that the wheels on it are 16s, not typical of a modern car this big. It rides amazing on the freeway though.

I wanna pick those up, apparently they fit in the SEs too.
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I'll swap you headlights. Lol, I've always wanted a set like those.

I wanna pick those up, apparently they fit in the SEs too.

Hah, yeah I've always wanted them too, best possible look IMO. The yellow inner fogs really suit the car, and I usually don't think that about yellow lights. I got lucky with the euroness of this car, but I suppose I wouldn't have gone after it otherwise.

Nice, I know you'd also want a LWB rear deck to do that. It has a little hinged cover that pleasantly fills the void of the reclined seats when they're all the way down.

I think it's insane that some of these even had heated rears too, but I think I'm going to dedicate this to being a summer car only, so I guess I'll save that effort for restoring the AC at some point. I almost want a rusty W126 winter beater now just so I can rock heated front and rear seats.
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So cool! I want to buy a car recently, can you give me some suggections
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Ah, cool, maybe 20 minutes away from me. Sorry the weather isn't very Floridian right now
its all good, going snow mobiling in a few days.... hopefully that will make up for it
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Nice pick up,


All those vacuum lines would just make my brain melt, lol


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Hah, yeah I've always wanted them too, best possible look IMO. The yellow inner fogs really suit the car, and I usually don't think that about yellow lights. I got lucky with the euroness of this car, but I suppose I wouldn't have gone after it otherwise.

Nice, I know you'd also want a LWB rear deck to do that. It has a little hinged cover that pleasantly fills the void of the reclined seats when they're all the way down.

I think it's insane that some of these even had heated rears too, but I think I'm going to dedicate this to being a summer car only, so I guess I'll save that effort for restoring the AC at some point. I almost want a rusty W126 winter beater now just so I can rock heated front and rear seats.
Haha, I'm telling you dude, I'm gonna find a high optioned 560SEL that's a rust bucket for its luxury options, I want headed front and rear seats and all the "VIP" stuff. I feel left out kinda with a SE, mine is actually really basic for what it is. My rear windows aren't even power.
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Haha, I'm telling you dude, I'm gonna find a high optioned 560SEL that's a rust bucket for its luxury options, I want headed front and rear seats and all the "VIP" stuff. I feel left out kinda with a SE, mine is actually really basic for what it is. My rear windows aren't even power.
But you have a 500SE which is super rare to find in the states, and you have the AMG body kit which is also hard to find, and you have pentas which you guessed it are hard to find. Don't ditch your car for a highly optioned 560SEL, there's millions of those.
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i want one of these badly but the prob is that parts are a bit expensive..... this is a nice one and black too
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Classic Benz is Classick! lookin' forward to seeing this unfold! Isn't there a way to simply all those Vacuum lines? or even get rid of them!?
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Everything runs off of the vacuum system... Even the door locks.
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This is going to be so cool!
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Well, I had a long finger banging (texting) session with the manager of the shop the car has been at all this time. With the lack of progress and multiple hours wasted, and the car not running any better, the majority of the bill will be voided and I'll take it back to my dealership (a nissan dealer, I'm the used inventory manager/reconditioner) so I can be around to talk to a more trustworthy tech to oversee while the work is being done (a good tech friend has already expressed interest in helping me out with it.) I'll have this current shop finish their job on the plugs and wires (sent the recommended bosch +4 plugs back right away and got NGK non-resistor plugs as recommended over and over again on BW) and when it's back in a shop again we'll tackle the distributor/cap/rotor, voltage regulator, and ignition control module to start. Not to mention the vacuum lines, I don't think a single connection is correct at the moment.

In the meantime, I illustrated my understanding of the vacuum lines in this beast. All the connections (from part A to part B) are on the top half, and the bottom half is defining the parts. Took me a while to get to this point but I think I get it now.




Based on the diagram, this picture would be a thermoswitch and vacuum switch. Good to do research and identify random things that look like they're broken.

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Goddamn, dem vacuum lines -___- Hopefully you'll get that hot mess figured out!
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Got the car running on its own today (by resoldering the connections in the overload protection relay,) finished coils and plugs, and got a good start on the vacuum, which took me this whole month to comprehend

And just now I went and picked up my euro front bumper!

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Alright, so I got the following ordered for the car -

- Thermoswitches
- Vacuum line
- Vacuum fittings
- Throttle body switchover valve
- Ignition Control/EZL
- Voltage regulator
- Misc. interior light bulbs


And I have the following ready to go in the car right now -
- Brand new fuel pump relay from the dealership
- 2 OVP Relays (thanks to Dave!)
- Wiper motor/transmission (thanks to Dave! It was badly seized but we got it pretty much unfrozen from soaking in lube for the past 2 days)
- 2 factory headunits (thanks to Dave!)
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