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[Drock11]

well, just picked up these salad shooters today. I'm gonna be running them on my e36, 16x9.5 all around. i know this setup can be done because it has been done before on this e36......





*to the owner of this^ if you have a problem with me posting these pictures of your car let me know and i will take it down. i guess some people get pissy about that so i feel obligated to say this*

know specs on the montreal blue e36: 16x9.5 195/50 dunlop direzza's all around. not sure about spacers, but the fitment is on point. i messaged the owner with my questions and never responded... oh well i planned on posting anyways for a few questions.

always my main question is how unsafe is it to run 195/50 on a 9.5 wide wheel? i already know the risk of stretch and what not, but some people say this is a whole lot of stretch? i personally thought it was less stretch than a 205/40 because the tire seems to be higher/more meat on the 195/50. this is why i thought these tires would fit an e36 well. most e36's on 16's seem to be stupid low when they run small tires... my theory is running a 195/50 on 16x9.5 will give me a little thicker tire, which means i can still have a fair amount of ground clearence under the chassis, and still have very little wheel gap, like picture above. i under stand that 195 stands for the width of the tire and 50 is the ratio of the tire... so even though the 195 is obiously smaller in width than the 205, the bigger ratio (50>40) should give me more sidewall/height over all.... am i right? i also thought about running a 215/45, but then i saw this guy ran 195/50 so I'm leaning towards that more... and as for spacers ill figure that out once i get tires mounted then see how much room i have to play with

any help is greatly appreciated! the sooner i figure this shit out the sooner i can look for some tires

thanks again!
-Derrick

[Zic]

If you keep looking at the tire pressure you will be fine.
Since its harder to notice when a tire needs more air, when its stretched you need to be on top of the situation, i checked my tires every two days.

If you don't look at the tire pressure you will have a blow out, and that is unsafe.

[Daviticus]

That's a relatively moderate stretch, compared to some of the stuff I see here on S|W.

Like Zic said, keep up on your tire pressure, and you'll be fine.

[Drock11]

thanks for your help guys.

anyone know what tire size would better suit an e36? 195/50 or 215/40? i keep googling images and can't make up my mind... and my fenders are already rolled and the rears are pulled a little bit too

[Zic]

i would go for 195/50, based on the link below. 195/50-16 9.5 Vs 215/40-17 10et20. It would give you decent ground clearance.
Click here.


215/40-16 vs 215/40-17.Click here. The 16inch would not stretch as much, and have lower height.

215/40-16 vs 195/50-16. the orange one is the 195. Click here.

*edit, this is all based on my personal preference, on a 215/40-17 on a 10. The only thing i did was match the height and stretch on the 16's.

[Drock11]

i saw that website thing before but never really understood how it would help, but that def helped me out a lot! thanks! I'm most likely going with the 195/50 then so i can get more ground clearance

[Phenom3030]

If you haven't already, try Tyrestretch.com. You can see what others have done there as well.

[Drock11]

i look on there a lot. i normally just use google images since its a lot more convenient, but thanks anyways!

[AMGwheelwhore]

That stretch won't cause you any issues man, I plan on rocking the same set up on my w124 this winter. I plan on running a 195/45/16 front and 195/50/16 rear w/ 20mm adapters all around. I'm currently running a 225/40/18 on an 18x11 and as long as you keep watch on the pressure you'll be golden. Good luck man.

[Drock11]

i had stretch tires before and no one ever told me to keep an eye on the tire pressure.... glad i learned now! thanks for all your help guys! I'm currently in the hunt for tires, ill probably end up dumping $350 and getting new ones off discount tire anyways :/ but ill be sure to post up some end results

[Ollie]

you could always do a nice meaty flush.


16x8 -9 225/45s

Those are federals too so they run extra wide. I used what I had in that case but if I were you Id run 225/45s as well. Should be enough stretch to get it nice and low without resting the cars belly on the ground like with 215/40s. and avoid the balloon tire look which doesnt play well on e36 fenders or e36s in general imo. Just my .02 If youre not sure order 2 pairs of tires at a time and try them out, or keep checking craigslist for cheap tires

[Drock11]

Originally Posted by Ollie

you could always do a nice meaty flush.


16x8 -9 225/45s

do you have any more pics? specifically the rears since the fronts are only 8 wide. i might be interested in similar tire sizes..

[Ollie]

rear was 16x9 +11 225/45 also
all I got:



just cuz I feel like posting it lol:

front is 16" rear is 17

[got splits?]

Sweet front end bro

[Drock11]

Originally Posted by got splits?

Sweet front end bro

hey my e36 currently doesn't have a front bumper either!


thanks for the pics Ollie ill have to consider it. i have to be careful with offsets though, i know I'm gonna need spacers to clear my coils and what not so i don't wanna run something too meaty and rub

[bobbyjones]

if you have to ask if it's safe. you can't hang. But seriously, do it. you'll be fine.

[Drock11]

Originally Posted by bobbyjones

if you have to ask if it's safe. you can't hang. But seriously, do it. you'll be fine.

these were my previous cars, the mk3 had 16x9 205.40 in the rear.... i think i can hang

but i had to ask and get some opinions since a bunch of people kept telling me that was a lot of stretch... i personally didn't think it was like a retarded amount of stretch from the beginning and that id be fine running those. I'm starting polishing today, and I'm waiting on a call from a local shop thats hooking me up with some used tires

[Drock11]

shitty iphone pics of the first test fit. surprisingly, i won't need hugh spacers for clearance. 10mm all around should be plenty. ill probably run something bigger in the rear since they're pulled slightly. so ready to get these things on!

[Daviticus]

I think the 195/50s will look good on that.

I've personally seen a 195/50 on a 15x11". Barely held air. As soon as the guy mounted a 205/50 [same brand and model tire even] it held air and seated properly. That's about as extreme as I'd ever go for stretch though.

[Drock11]

195/50 is still the plan. I'm waiting on a call from a local shop to hook me up with some used ones

[Daviticus]

Nice dude. Are they going to mount them for you? I've had a particularly nasty time with shops here in Utah for mounting stretch tires. All the lowrider shops in the 'hood are on that 24" wheel binge still.

[Drock11]

nah this is just some little shop in the city that mainly sells used tires for dirt cheap, my buddy recommended it to me. theres a tire shop less than 5 miles from my house that will mount stretched tires. I've always gone to them

[Drock11]

picked up my tires today, used kuhmo 195/50's with good tread for $120 but i have to wait til monday to go get them mounted. oh well.

does anyone know how i can bore out the hub on the vette wheels just a few mm? the hub bore on the wheels are 70.3 and my e36 hub is 72.5. i could go to a machine shop but i feel like theres a way i can do it myself since its so small. I've seen other ppl use router's but that might be too big... any suggestions?

[Drock11]

had to run small 2 universal spacers in the front to clear my coilovers, i think its 10mm, and theres 1 of the universal spacers in the rear, 5mm i think. i still need to get bigger spacers in the rear and some hub centric ones for the front. ill probably lower it more then too.

i should also get a camera better than my iPhone

[chapel]

Originally Posted by Drock11

does anyone know how i can bore out the hub on the vette wheels just a few mm? the hub bore on the wheels are 70.3 and my e36 hub is 72.5. i could go to a machine shop but i feel like theres a way i can do it myself since its so small. I've seen other ppl use router's but that might be too big... any suggestions?

What did you end up doing?