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  • #16
    Originally posted by Canada View Post
    I recently purchased a mint 1966 250s with 61K original miles (see pict below). I love the car but I can only assume the 11" of ground clearance was a design necessity in the 60s when you routinely needed to transport 5 large Germans and their luggage, while driving over bad roads, in winter, with snow chains on, going uphill both ways.

    I laughed so hard. You win
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    Projects :

    1984 W123 300D (Sold)

    1999 C43 AMG (no thread..yet)

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    • #17
      Really this is reliable details i like this actually i was in looking for this details and considering to create a line for this but i have no need to create any line after study out this details anyways thanks for this and have a awesome day ..............
      Peter

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      • #18
        w108 Coil Springs

        Thought I would share my 2 days worth of research on w108 (1966 250S) Coil Springs with everyone. The below is for the 250S but I've attached the MB Data Techbook details on the other models as well.

        Front Coil Spring Part No. for MERCEDES-BENZ: 108 321 03 04
        Model: 250S / Chasiss: W108.012 / Engine: 2.5L V6 / Automatic with A/C, Power Steering and Power Brakes
        Vehicle Permissible total weight: 1940 kg
        Front axle capacity: 885 kg
        Rear axle capacity: 1055 kg

        MB Tech Databook For Front Springs 108 321 03 04

        Free length of spring “L” [mm]: 378
        Spring length under normal load [mm]: 252
        Load “P” normal kp: 652
        Load “P” max kp: 983
        Spring travel per 100 kp of load [mm]: 19.3
        Wire thickness “d” [mm]: 16.2
        Mean winding “d” diameter [mm]: 110
        Number of windings: 10 3
        Thickness [mm]: 15,9
        Length [mm]: 410
        Weight [kg]: 5,6
        Outer Diameter 1 [mm]: 126

        Other Front Springs that are a direct swap with the MB ones:
        SPIDAN 48662 Direct Cross Interchange
        SUPLEX 19050 Direct Cross Interchange
        BOGE 813480 Direct Cross Interchange
        CS Germany 14319802 Direct Cross Interchange
        KYB RA1943 Indirect Cross Interchange
        K+F 319802 Indirect Cross Interchange

        Rear Coil Spring for MERCEDES-BENZ: 108 324 02 04

        MB Tech Databook for Rear Springs 108 321 02 04

        Free length of spring “L” [mm]: 314
        Spring length under normal load [mm]: 215
        Load “P” normal kp: 614
        Load “P” max kp: 990
        Spring travel per 100 kp of load [mm]: 16.2
        Wire thickness “d” [mm]: 15.9
        Mean winding “d” diameter [mm]: 120
        Number of windings: 6
        Thickness [mm]: 15,9
        Length [mm]: 325
        Weight [kg]: 4,5
        Outer Diameter 1 [mm]: 137

        Other Rear Springs that are a direct swap with the MB ones:
        SPIDAN 48663 Direct Cross Interchange
        SUPLEX 19051 Direct Cross Interchange 6
        K+F 31981000 Direct Cross Interchange 6
        BOGE 813490 Direct Cross Interchange 6
        BILSTEIN 36159420 Direct Cross Interchange 6
        SACHS 996164 Direct Cross Interchange 6
        TRW JCS985 Direct Cross Interchange 2


        Also, if you look at the springs themselves they have one end that is pigtail (don't cut that end) and the other is tangential (spins off into space). At least according to Eaton Detroit Springs (guys who've made springs for 100 years) they are okay to cut: read this: http://www.eatondetroitspring.com/cutting-coil-springs/

        Yes, they will make the spring stiffer but that is needed given the car sits lower to the ground; you want it stiffer so you don't bottom out all the time. When you have custom lowered springs made, they are stiffer than the stock ones - suprise suprise.

        Hope this helps everyone.
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        Last edited by Canada; 03-02-2014, 08:45 PM.

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