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Old 12-20-2011, 01:44 PM   #1
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anyone know where i can get new barrels made? current 14x?, want to be 15x10 all 4.




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Old 12-20-2011, 04:24 PM   #2
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have you tried lcontacting them through their website info?
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:29 PM   #3
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have you tried lcontacting them through their website info?
not yet, figured it would be cheaper though a shop that does many different sizes/brands. i guess last option would be to go through the manufacturer. eeh or just widen them.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:45 PM   #4
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have you tried lcontacting them through their website info?
they havent made them for 20 years. contacting SSR isnt going to help.

Rotiform would be the best place.
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kodiak will likely be your only option for custom lips for the longchamps
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kodiak will likely be your only option for custom lips for the longchamps
cool, ill contact them. only problem is Rotiform told me, because the sizing of the faces its going to be difficult to fit i guess.

"We supply only RM & RS 15" diameter outer shells, width .5 thru 3.0 inch"

Since my faces are 14" or smaller will this work? BTW, noob question, what is "RM & RS"?
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:41 PM   #7
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last resort...polish and use them as a coffee table.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:31 PM   #8
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rotiform doesnt do their own lips, they outsource the work..

kodiak does lips in custom configurations. you fill out a form with dimensions for bolt to bolt, amount of bolts, overall sizes, etc, and they can build them for you.

BBS RS,RM are standard wheels most people buy lips for. just so you know, a 14" wheel has a much smaller face then 14". typical 16" RS are 34 bolt 12.25" diameter faces.
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rotiform doesnt do their own lips, they outsource the work..

kodiak does lips in custom configurations. you fill out a form with dimensions for bolt to bolt, amount of bolts, overall sizes, etc, and they can build them for you.

BBS RS,RM are standard wheels most people buy lips for. just so you know, a 14" wheel has a much smaller face then 14". typical 16" RS are 34 bolt 12.25" diameter faces.
No, But Rotiform has been known to make oldschool wheels bigger using the faces.
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No, But Rotiform has been known to make oldschool wheels bigger using the faces.
That's exactly what I thought... but unfortunately I got this email...

"unfortunately our tooling does not work with the sizing of your faces. We can help you restore those if you are interested.

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No, But Rotiform has been known to make oldschool wheels bigger using the faces.

lots of companies do this, and dont outsource to say the same company i am about to type. let me be clearer....KODIAK does custom lips, see if they will make lips and barrels for your upsized set. they are the source everyone uses

call them and discuss what you want to do to the wheels. and since you currently have 8 bolts, try to split it evenly, say 24 or 32 bolts per wheel. will make it easier since you can use the holes they come with in addition to lots of new holes which will need to be drilled into the faces

no affiliation with them whatsoever just know from the past they do work like this
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lots of companies do this, and dont outsource to say the same company i am about to type. let me be clearer....KODIAK does custom lips, see if they will make lips and barrels for your upsized set. they are the source everyone uses

call them and discuss what you want to do to the wheels. and since you currently have 8 bolts, try to split it evenly, say 24 or 32 bolts per wheel. will make it easier since you can use the holes they come with in addition to lots of new holes which will need to be drilled into the faces

no affiliation with them whatsoever just know from the past they do work like this
Good stuff, will do, and thanks a lot.
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lots of companies do this, and dont outsource to say the same company i am about to type. let me be clearer....KODIAK does custom lips, see if they will make lips and barrels for your upsized set. they are the source everyone uses

call them and discuss what you want to do to the wheels. and since you currently have 8 bolts, try to split it evenly, say 24 or 32 bolts per wheel. will make it easier since you can use the holes they come with in addition to lots of new holes which will need to be drilled into the faces

no affiliation with them whatsoever just know from the past they do work like this
Kodiaks picky though. I tried to order some for my 15" longchamps and they wouldnt. Same with a friend for his RS's.
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Kodiaks picky though. I tried to order some for my 15" longchamps and they wouldnt. Same with a friend for his RS's.
I'm gonna call BS on this.

I had no issues working with Kodiak right up to the point of ordering. Just give them the information that they need and they'll tell you if they can or can't.
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These are a 3pc welded wheel, where the face, barrel and lips and bolted together and then a bead of weld is run down the inside seam. This prevents leaks but also greatly strengthens the wheel.

When rebarreling a 3pc welded wheel to be run as a true three piece, you're going to want to add more wheel bolts. Most true 3pc'ers run at least 30 bolts.
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These are a 3pc welded wheel, where the face, barrel and lips and bolted together and then a bead of weld is run down the inside seam. This prevents leaks but also greatly strengthens the wheel.

When rebarreling a 3pc welded wheel to be run as a true three piece, you're going to want to add more wheel bolts. Most true 3pc'ers run at least 30 bolts.
Yes, I either planned on welding on the new barrels or adding a lot more than the 8 bolts they came with. Need new hardware anyway... rusted to no end.
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just go check out Memoryfab and give them a call.

http://www.memoryfab.com/

http://www.memoryfab.com/blog/view/2

805-RARE-RIM

they do it all in house, no outsourcing.

and they are located in Union City, CA.... so no event that far from you!

i havent personally used them but i have some friends that have as well as a couple shops i know and they all tell me this is the place to go!!

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just go check out Memoryfab and give them a call.

http://www.memoryfab.com/

http://www.memoryfab.com/blog/view/2

805-RARE-RIM

they do it all in house, no outsourcing.

and they are located in Union City, CA.... so no event that far from you!

i havent personally used them but i have some friends that have as well as a couple shops i know and they all tell me this is the place to go!!

THANK YOU! they are so close to me. ever notice how the answers are always right under your nose? f u * k i n g BRILLIANT! I will call as soon as the new year strikes! these champs gonna be 16" and wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide. so dope.


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Don't want to thread jack, but I've got a question related to SSR Longchamps.

I'm looking at a set for my car, and have noticed that some have bolts, and some don't; and I've seen XR-C's and XR4's.

Whats the difference between these? Are the XR-C's 2 piece?

Thanks for the help.
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Don't want to thread jack, but I've got a question related to SSR Longchamps.

I'm looking at a set for my car, and have noticed that some have bolts, and some don't; and I've seen XR-C's and XR4's.

Whats the difference between these? Are the XR-C's 2 piece?

Thanks for the help.
The XR-C... "rarity is like no other. This is a wheel out of SSR’s Longchamp line, very similar to the XR-4s but produced and sold in lower numbers."

XR-4 is what I have, I have 8 bolt because they are only 14" with 11.5" faces, the barrels are welded on so even though they are 3 piece, they are not 100% true splits. You will find that the 15's have 10 bolts but are still welded from factory. Real 3 piece wheels usually have about 30+ bolts holding all 2 or 3 pieces together.

Sorry if you already knew any of this, hope it helps. Happy new year!
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It would probably be cheaper to wait for a set of LongChamps with the right dimensions to be up for auction in Japan. But the easier route is to get someone to widen the barrels you have now. If they won't be wide enough for you, sell them as is and buy a another set that's wider stock or have less offset and get them welded wider.
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