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    Default Static 190E 2.3-16

    Greetings, Friends:

    For years, I have been enjoying reading through build threads, and watching the clever ideas that everyone develops, the bold moves people make, and then the antics that make the purists go nuts. Even if it is not my style, I can respect that someone took the time to make their vision a reality.

    With that inspiration in mind, I thought I would share my build with you. It is my low-budget (cue the famous song by The Kinks), rat-rod-esque, static 1986 Mercedes Benz 190E 2.3-16. With this thread, I will share some its history, and bring you along for the ride for the next adventure. Or, you can watch with me as it disintegrates into dust – whichever comes first.

    Here are a few recent pics:

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    Here is where it began…

    That fender was even worse than the pic suggests. Thankfully, the seller had another 2.3-16 specific fender. Aficionados know that the regular 190E fenders are different than the 2.3-16 190E fenders. The actual fender does not flare out. The added fender flares, which are a part of the body kit, only give the appearance of the flare.

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    Got the new fender painted and installed. Here we are at the James Dean Festival. Next step, remove the cheap, aftermarket grill that is flimsy and falling apart!

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    The heart of the beast.

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    Back to original grill. This is more my style.

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    Early morning shots:

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    A/C delete!

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    About this time, I had decided to really go all out and make this a performance dedicated car. I swapped the wheels to lightweight CLKs…

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    I gutted the interior…

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    I made the pilgrimage to Southern Worthersee (for the last year that it existed, that is)…

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    I knew the car had rust when I bought it. But, I did not realize that it was getting this bad…

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    At this point, I knew that I could not, in good conscience, thrash this car around the curves and corners, etc. I made the decision to just drop it down. That would involve first pulling the body kit.

    More rust…

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    And you have to pull swap the fenders too. Here is a pic with the wheels that eventually landed on the car.

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    Made it down to Water by the Bridge 2016. (Why the promoters do not print up decals for Water by the Bridge is beyond me. That would seem to be cheap, and effective advertising.)

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    Always loved stinger pipes. Decided to give it a run with my car. I am sure purists love it too. =)

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    On the way back from Water by the Bridge, I found an interesting spot…

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    And it seemed like there was a graveyard behind the antiques building…

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    The trip to Water by the Bridge was the first real opportunity to get out and stretch the cars legs with the recent lowering. First thing that needed to be addressed was ride quality. Front was alright. In the front, I was running the r129 strut mounts, the customary Bilstein sport B8 application, cut stock 16v springs, and 4-nub spring shims. The front was good, but back was miserable.

    Seeing some of you install the Ford Ranger shocks on the rears of your 190s, I thought I would give it a whirl. Note that these shocks are from the FRONT of the Ford Ranger – NOT the rear.

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    Having heard that the Ford Ranger shock is a viable alternative for those wanting to go LOW, I decided to give it a shot. Given the inexpensive price of the Gabriels from Summit, I thought it might be worth a try.

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    Luckily, I had some extra bushings lying around. Otherwise, I would have to beat the old ones out of my Bilsteins.

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    As you can see, there is significant shock travel gained by swapping to the Ford Ranger front shocks.

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    Because there is not much clearance, I knew these wide wheels were not going to work for long. So, it was back to my 16” SL wheels.

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    Here we are gearing up for Eurohanger 2016.

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    Made it to Eurohangar 2016. However, there were a few bumps along the way where I was literally checking in my rearview mirror to see what fell off. Totally expecting to see exhaust pipes. Surprisingly, the only thing I lost was a jack pad. Unbelievable. This is static, mind you.

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    Decided that the stinger pipe just wasn't right for this car. Swapped to something a little more in line with the mood of this car... with some junk I had lying around.

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    Update on the rear shocks. The trip to Eurohangar convinced me that the cheap Gabriels were simply NOT going to cut it. It was time to invest in some proper Bilsteins.

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    Thankfully, Bilstein makes some for the front of Ford Ranger. P/N 24-022361. Here, you can see it compared against the typical Bilstein recommended for the 190E.

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    The experiment started with the Gabriel shocks for the Ford Ranger. The purpose of the experiment was to observe the ride quality with the increased shock travel in the lowered application. The increased shock travel certainly helped, but the generally poor quality of the Gabriels necessitated the upgrade.

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    We all knew that the Bilsteins were lightyears ahead in quality. But, there is really nothing look going from something like a cheap Gabriel shock to a Bilstein to REALLY make that improvement that much more noticeable. The Bilsteins are SO much more firm and controlled. Now, it actually feels like I am driving a Mercedes again – in spite of its LOW ride height. Also interesting to note, the rubber bushing inserts from the Gabriels were already loose – and there was barely 1,100 miles on them!!

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    Stay tuned for more to come. This build is really never going to be finished. Well, when the shock towers finally rust apart, then this build will be finished. I am not going to bother spending the time to weld in new metal when you can get a 2.3 190E rolling shell for about $500. At that point, I may just tear out the drive train and drop it in to a cleaner car. We’ll see. Until then, keep watch for more on the ROSTIG, LANGSAM, UND GESUNKEN 190E 2.3-16.

    Deutschland201
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    Love a clean 190e Great work man

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    Absolutely loving this, keep it going!

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    Default A weight-saving update

    Here is an update I thought I would share. Because 30 year sunroof seals start to go bad and leak, and as the motors stop working, etc. etc., and at which point the sunroof assembly then becomes nothing more than leaking dead weight, I decided to just pull the whole thing.

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    So, with some layers of fiberglass right over the top, we have a strong, permanent, leak-proof panel. I then just taped it off and spray-painted it black. Cheap, but effective!

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    This new panel may weigh 1, maybe 2 lbs. Considering the sunroof panel and assembly weighed every bit of 60 lbs., that is a considerable weight savings.

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    And many thanks for the compliments, by the way!!!
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    Default More Updates - Rust repair, and seat installation, and more pics for fun!

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    Also, another update. Seat installation!

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    Where did you find this, the rust matches one I sold seven or eight years ago...



    It went to Columbus I think
    Activity is not on my list of activities.

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    190E and a MK1 GTI?! My favorite cars of all time!

    Originally, WAAAY back when - it came from California. When I got it, it came from South Chicago. Before that, I think it was in Richmond, Indiana. Before that, I believe it was in Bloomington, Indiana. Bloomington is not too far from Columbus, Indiana. If you have any old insurance statements or records, perhaps you may have some VIN information? We could compare notes.

    Who knows - it might be the same one! Wild.

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    great one man but did you not cut our the rust before the fiberglass or did i miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whacka View Post
    great one man but did you not cut our the rust before the fiberglass or did i miss something?
    You did not miss anything. And, you are absolutely correct. A legit repair would be to remove the rust before applying the fix. I should not have called it a repair. This was more of a way to just prevent water from coming into the car when I drive. Frankly, this body is too far gone to justify the time it would take for a proper restoration - especially given the availability of other 201 chassis shells that could be used as donor vehicles for the drivetrain. That may be an option down the road. Time will tell.

    By the way, thanks for reading!

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  11. Default Gearing up for winter... and snow... sigh

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    Drop the resin and step away from the vehicle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asshole Bicycle View Post
    Drop the resin and step away from the vehicle!
    Well played!

    P.S. Love your shotgun exhaust, by the way!
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  14. Default Update - New Fender

    Procured a new (well, new to me) fender to replace the resin mess fender! Woo hoo!

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    Not perfect. But, it is light-years ahead of the previous fender!
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    This looks good... excusing the dodgy repairs.
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    Oh man we would be good friends, this is so so cool! Have the ranger Bilsteins treated you well? Saab 9-3 shocks with your bushings are also a good alternative that I ran on my Benz's, dampening was perfect and I had good travel. Stock cossie body 190's on the floor are my cup of tea. Where in the US are you located?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CDeez5 View Post
    This looks good... excusing the dodgy repairs.
    Thanks! However, referring to them as "repairs" may be a bit too generous of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by 190Evan View Post
    Oh man we would be good friends, this is so so cool! Have the ranger Bilsteins treated you well? Saab 9-3 shocks with your bushings are also a good alternative that I ran on my Benz's, dampening was perfect and I had good travel. Stock cossie body 190's on the floor are my cup of tea. Where in the US are you located?
    I am very pleased with the Ford Ranger Bilsteins. Admittedly, I have not thrashed this car around in the corners. Still, it is a firm, yet comfortable ride. My theory is that, since they are for the front of the Ford Ranger, they can adequately handle what weight is present in the rear of the 190E.

    I have used the Saab equivalents on another car that is set up for cornering. And, I have been very pleased with the results as well. The Ford Ranger shock bodies are shorter though - allowing for more low.

    I am in Indiana. So, next time you are cruising through the Midwest, keep an eye out for this ride - unless, of course, it is snowing out. (Can't wait for spring!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chandlerGTi View Post
    Where did you find this, the rust matches one I sold seven or eight years ago...



    It went to Columbus I think
    I think this is Concentric190's old car. I went and looked at it once and this is about how far it was gone. I'm glad someone is using it up the rest of the way though. I ***** seeing it sit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standard125r View Post
    I think this is Concentric190's old car. I went and looked at it once and this is about how far it was gone. I'm glad someone is using it up the rest of the way though. I ***** seeing it sit.
    That is awesome! Is Concentric190 here on this forum? It would be fascinating to see if he (or she) had any pics of the car from back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutschland201 View Post
    That is awesome! Is Concentric190 here on this forum? It would be fascinating to see if he (or she) had any pics of the car from back in the day.
    He used to be a member on Rev back in the day. Probably moved on from the car game...LOL. The GTI was my brother's. We have a different toys now.

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  21. Default A break in the weather

    We actually had some decent weather last weekend. I took the opportunity to snap some photos. Here are some of my favorites. Enjoy. Oh, yes – and Happy New Year!

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    Happy New Year!

    Your car makes me want one. I remember loving this thing in Sega GT2002 and always kinda dreamed of owning one. Rarely see anything worth buying up here tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjGreggieP View Post
    Happy New Year!

    Your car makes me want one. I remember loving this thing in Sega GT2002 and always kinda dreamed of owning one. Rarely see anything worth buying up here tho.
    Thanks for compliment. I must say that it has been a lot of fun.

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    I found my theme song.

    I'm a 90s baby in my 80s Mercedes...


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    Had some nice weather today. Snapped some shots over by a small airport. So good to stretch its legs a bit!

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    Still static.
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