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    Default Third Bagged Benz. 2001 E320 wagon.

    So many of you know I sold my Bagged C43 AMG to a long time friend and forum member (socale320 on here). A lot of you already know this wagon that I picked up to replace the AMG also. The wagon was previously owned by a forum member here. He sold it to a guy that almost sent it to the scrap yard. Fortunately ( for the car) Im choosing to sort all the issues out.

    Here it is before I owned it.


    And the teaser. I integrated the paddle valves and gauges into the OEM burl wood cubby door. So far Its been a slow build but im finally getting maintenance issues out of the way and the air-ride install has begun. Getting excited




    Edit: I now remember why I stopped coming on here so often. SPAM THREADS galor. Jesus what the hell has happened here stanceworks? This used to be a spam free forumn board. sad to see it happening
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    Glad this thing went to a good home, I was looking at buying it from the forum member on here but he was talking about it being sold and used just for a wedding?

    What problems did you run into if you don't mind me asking?


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    I always have mixed feelings about 210s, they're not the prettiest cars, but they're comfortable and great to drive imo. This one is looking great though.

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    These cars are already becoming more and more desirable
    Very excited to see where this goes, personally I'm a big fan of these

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    Glad to see you're still at it. I've always loved the way these cars looked, especially the wagon. Something about the 4 round headlights and a big booty that makes it look really classy without being overstated.

    Would love to see this with a Wald kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffy View Post
    Glad this thing went to a good home, I was looking at buying it from the forum member on here but he was talking about it being sold and used just for a wedding?

    What problems did you run into if you don't mind me asking?
    Yeah I bought it from the guy who wanted to use it for a wedding a week before his wedding.....He signed the name of the forum board member and forged basically every document, I even joked " im not gonna have to check ID am I" I then ran into a headache trying to take title. Im not here to bad mouth anyone but it was a mess to say the very least..... The rear suspension needed a complete overhaul the rear lower control arms were cut open to fit "custom coilover shocks" but then they didnt weld them back.the reason for the conversion was to delete the factory OEM hydraulic Self leveling suspension that these older Mercedes wagons came equipped with. However to do the conversion properly you are supposed to use sedan lower control arms. I now have retrofitted short Bilsteins from a ford ranger front end. Im going to just go ahead and do a photo dump of all the pics of the things ive fixed so far. they basically speak for themselves. Also the car was mixing oil and coolant because of a bad radiator ( the trans cooler lines run to the radiator on this car it can fail internally and cause the trans oil to get into the coolant) so Ive replaced everything to do with the cooling system. water pump, radiator, thermostat hoses etc. When doing this i found had the wrong coolant was run through it. Also both motor mounts and trans mounts were bad. But i knew this when i test drove it. basically what happened was the forum member here sold it to a questionable guy who drove the car into the ground. racked up toll road tickets in the previous owners name, and then fraudulently pretended to be the previous owner(the forum member here) He signed his name wrote his DL# on the title and bill of sale etc...... I learned a huge lesson about buying used cars off Craigslist. ALWAYS CHECK ID trust no ones story. even if they claim to work at the sheriffs department. Turns out the guy who is a forum member here is the one who really works at the sheriffs office. I was actually able to get into contact with the aforementioned forum member here and eventually everything was resolved. I hope karma comes around and this guys marriage fails, His wife cheats, and his dog dies. anyway whats done is done. and now its on to fixing everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen View Post
    I always have mixed feelings about 210s, they're not the prettiest cars, but they're comfortable and great to drive imo. This one is looking great though.
    its is such a plush ride coming from a smaller C-Class benz to the E has been a nice change. They are pretty ugly. A name like Helga or Bertha seems fitting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehowski View Post
    These cars are already becoming more and more desirable
    Very excited to see where this goes, personally I'm a big fan of these
    I got a few things coming for 2016. LOL


    Quote Originally Posted by rice4life View Post
    Glad to see you're still at it. I've always loved the way these cars looked, especially the wagon. Something about the 4 round headlights and a big booty that makes it look really classy without being overstated.

    Would love to see this with a Wald kit.
    Thanks man, I too would love to see a wald kit on here, Just finding one is the hardest part! haha Haven't thrown in the towel...... yet. I should be taking more pics of all the work im doing to this thing though. I dont have any pics of the air ride management install. Probably because its nothing fancy, everything hidden away in the spare wheel well.

    Here is the said Photo-DUMP these are all I have since I got the car back in june, minus what I have posted to my instagram( most of these are on there) And basically just show the old VS new stuff. this is Not really a "build" thread so far...more like a maintenance thread











































    Small things i have changed are the red center caps and painted the bumper lights white. Also contemplating running these clinched flares that i got from them during a sale.I grabbed the 4cm + 7cm set that they sell on ebay. Not sure how im going to fit them yet ( or if they will even be fitted to this car) But they quality is pretty decent and theyre ABS plastic not fiberglass!





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    If I was you I would run the flares but not the whole thing. Cut them so they meet the bumper and the top of the trim piece on the other side.

    Props on all the maintenance work so far though, bet that has been pricey for Merc parts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskerz View Post
    If I was you I would run the flares but not the whole thing. Cut them so they meet the bumper and the top of the trim piece on the other side.

    Props on all the maintenance work so far though, bet that has been pricey for Merc parts!
    Exactly what i was thinking about the flares. they for sure need to be cut to fit. Idk how im going to make them flow yet TBH. Been more concerned with getting her running right and you sir are correct! It has not been cheap! haha it doesnt help that I'm the type of person that wont buy the cheaper alternative part. even if its no different than the OEM brands. I kinda learned that lesson the hard way on my previous Mercs. after having a brand new fan clutch go through a brand new radiator after only 400 miles of use i decided I will always use OEM parts from there on out.

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    Nice! Glad you're updating on here! BTW - the bot/spam thing is crazy on here. Im surprised the mods arent all over that as other forums are quick to shut it down.

    Whats w/ the cuts in the lower control arms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD202 View Post
    Im not here to bad mouth anyone
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    I hope karma comes around and this guys marriage fails, His wife cheats, and his dog dies. anyway whats done is done. and now its on to fixing everything.

    Boy that escalated quickly

    In any case, I'm liking where this is going. Flares will be very interesting to see on this wagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehowski View Post
    +1 on running the flares from the bumper
    We will see what happens im still on the fence about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruTaing View Post
    Nice! Glad you're updating on here! BTW - the bot/spam thing is crazy on here. Im surprised the mods arent all over that as other forums are quick to shut it down.

    Whats w/ the cuts in the lower control arms?
    The spam bots here are outta control these days! l
    I guess they cut the control arms like that to fit the lower shock eyelet from the "custom fit" FEALs coilovers......That didnt actually fit the control arms at all! Im not sure why but it was causing an awful creaking noise before they were replaced on even the smallest of bumps/dips

    Quote Originally Posted by Loch Ness Dongster View Post
    Boy that escalated quickly

    In any case, I'm liking where this is going. Flares will be very interesting to see on this wagon.
    Yeah still undecided on the flares TBH. Not to sure what i want to do with the flares in order to make them flow. gotta measure and mock them up with the wheels installed and not the stocks. was even considering having them molded to the car no rivets? Who knows. I gotta finish installing my air-ride first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD202 View Post
    The spam bots here are outta control these days! l
    I guess they cut the control arms like that to fit the lower shock eyelet from the "custom fit" FEALs coilovers......That didnt actually fit the control arms at all! Im not sure why but it was causing an awful creaking noise before they were replaced on even the smallest of bumps/dips
    Woah. Thats funky. Glad to see you've got this guy m112 all sorted out. Mine's cracked 165k, but I barely get to drive it anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruTaing View Post
    Woah. Thats funky. Glad to see you've got this guy m112 all sorted out. Mine's cracked 165k, but I barely get to drive it anymore

    Your M112 has a cracked block!? What were some of the symptoms? mines at 167k currently and it is exhibiting some symptoms such as excess pressure build up in the upper radiator hose even after fixing the entire cooling system.all new hoses etc. Changed the expansion tank and the cap twice now! leads me to believe exhaust gases could be escaping into the water channel via a crack in the cylinder wall? Havent really had any other issues and Im still driving it to and from work without over heating or loosing water.

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    lol. no no - no cracked block block for me. I just crossed 165k miles and the engine's been good..

    I havent read heard of anyone w/ an m112 w/ a cracked block. Its generally a super-under tuned, all-purpose, torquey motor used from SLKs to MLs, in other words its been pretty durable. My PCV ontop of the valve covers wont stay sealed for more than like 20k, but other than that... the engine's been very durable for me. If I were you, i'd look into the PCV hoses and make sure they're not giving you issues. They may be clogged and can cause some issues there.

    On the bright side if yours is giving you issues: m112's are like.. 500 bux now a days and easy to get if you need to pull it out. Pretty sure there is a guy in LA who can swap ya over to an m113 also.

    Are you sure your system doesnt have too much fluid in it - Im guessing you've drained it entirely out also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruTaing View Post
    lol. no no - no cracked block block for me. I just crossed 165k miles and the engine's been good..

    I havent read heard of anyone w/ an m112 w/ a cracked block. Its generally a super-under tuned, all-purpose, torquey motor used from SLKs to MLs, in other words its been pretty durable. My PCV ontop of the valve covers wont stay sealed for more than like 20k, but other than that... the engine's been very durable for me. If I were you, i'd look into the PCV hoses and make sure they're not giving you issues. They may be clogged and can cause some issues there.

    On the bright side if yours is giving you issues: m112's are like.. 500 bux now a days and easy to get if you need to pull it out. Pretty sure there is a guy in LA who can swap ya over to an m113 also.

    Are you sure your system doesnt have too much fluid in it - Im guessing you've drained it entirely out also.

    Oh man fewww i got scared for a minute. Yeah i have heard the same thing about these m112 and m113 engines. The M113 in the C43 i just sold had 220k miles on original everything! The new owner is good friend of mine and i get to ride in the car often, still pulls like a freight train.anyway back to the wagon. Yeah I have drained the system like three times. All of which i have had a difficult time getting it to burp the air out of the heater core. I actually dont have any working heat right now either. Luckily for me its never to cold here in SoCal. Also going to check the PCV now that you mention it. some on other forums have indicated a clogged EGR can cause similar problems.

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    few more small updates. Buddy of mine who has a vinyl wrap business here in the San Diego area ( @mac_wraps on instagram) installed some gloss black on my roof for that false panoramic roof look. He came by my place and did the hood grills to tie it all together. And also scored some euro impact strips without the Bumper light. dont mind the stock wheels its temporary.












    Hmmmm still havent figured this one out. Will have to wait for wheels.


    US spec Impact strip with bumper light ( that I have already painted) VS the Euro spec impact strip that doesnt have any bumper light.


    Quick 0.97c Rattle Can paint job






    I dont mind the rattle can paint that doesnt match because most likely this car is going to get a full wrap soon.

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    You gotta make those fenders work mate, it'll be so worth it
    And I love the little touches like the euro bumper trim, makes the car what it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehowski View Post
    You gotta make those fenders work mate, it'll be so worth it
    And I love the little touches like the euro bumper trim, makes the car what it is
    Im trying to figure it out! might change it up and just run ZG flares, anything will be better than the bacon fenders. lol

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    Awesome man! You know I love my w210 estates. you gotta do what I was too chicken to accomplish.

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    so after much debate. and in preparation for the bags to finally go in this month (if all goes as planned) i decided to cut and flare the car. but not with the clinched flares as they were going to require more trim work and cutting of oem bumper moulding pieces. i was not willing to do this as i like the look and the euro impact strips are harder to get and find here in the US. so ive decided to go with Datsun ZG flares. everything needs to be dialed in a bit but basically the following photo dump pis the process i went through to fit the flares. the fronts were easy to cut out. the rears on this merc were a pain and took over 5 hours to simply cut out. cut tabs and then fold over for rigidity the sheet metal. most cars have two layers. this merc has three very thick layers of sheet metal. I was thinking it was because its a wagon and needs added reinforcement in that rear area. I know most people weld the panels back together. but i did not have access to a welder and after folding all the sheet metal over it quarter panel seemed rigid again. and not flimsy like when first cut. So some seam sealant slapped on over the bare metal where the tabs were cut and some under coating and its good. here is the photo dump. the wheels were fitted to an offset of -20et front and rear. widths are 19x10 , 19x11.5 also while i was doing the flare install my buddy who i sold my previous amg build to was re-wrapping it with the color change wrap. I also picked up a second hand steering wheel to use temporarily while i send out the other OEM wheel to get reupholstered and converted to wood grain.



    ^^^ Decided against these even though some people really wanted me to make them work.










    the main reason the fenders were getting cut.....not my work. so it didnt bother me to hack them up. lol its just a car afterall.


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    my first time doing this. I need to cut a little better. LOL i had to clean it up with the grinding disc











    Holy body filler!!



    next on the to do list..... HEADLIGHTS!






    old wheel getting sent to be reupholstered





    temporary setup


    those gauges and switches need the bags hooked up ASAP. still waiting on some rear brackets.


    the nasty rears. the body filler was even thicker back here.






















    dont mind the dirt. will get it all cleaned up eventually.







    im thinking it can go even wider once im bagged. So probably going to get bigger lips but for now will stick to the spacers im using to get it to -20et





    took the spacers off the front so i could drive and turn without destroying the flares before its even on bags





    thats all the updates for now. Hopefully next time i update this thread will be to show the car laid out.

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    Great stance! The fender flares added a lot of badassness
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    Whats the name of these wheels and where can i get some !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by W124_Starship View Post
    Whats the name of these wheels and where can i get some !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They're Weds Kranze LXZ
    Check VRwheels.com they usually have used sets on there or a decent price.

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    duuuuude you get all the cool/vip/wide/big rims in the states....all you can find in europe are vossens, RSs, RMs and oz futuras....and nothing on 20s!!!

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