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    Hiya fellas! Its time to start another build.

    You might have seen my previous stuff:
    MB 190E M50 Swap build
    BMW E39 530d

    Start story:
    We were arguing with a friend what would be good swap for W201 if you don't want to use Mercs Diesel engines (pretty popular swap + tuneup here in finland). Also "costs" were considered. So we endup in conclusion that M50 would be wicked. There is whole alot of knowledge around it, its strong built, "easy" to build. and for most part for start point its CHEAP!(working car with M50B25 can be found for less than 1000[around 1300$]) and some parts could be sold from that car to get some off the price.

    So with that said i endup buying 800 BMW E34 525i with M50B25 and that is the MB 190E M50 Swap build topic about. But that was considered as a "test build" will the engine fit how would it work how it handles etc. So now after +20 000km i could say it works nicely.

    And for that done i start the REAL build, W201 M50B28 Turbo

    Here is the bad boy that going to get some work done for it. I paid 600 for the chassis, it seems in good condition not too much rust.


    And of course this will be FULL overhaul of the vehicle and will take atleast to next spring or summer.
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    Project car: MB 190E M50 Turbo build
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    fuck this shit again. I'm subbed!

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    Hell yes, I cant wait for this! subed

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    So let the story begin!
    So i started taking the car a part piece by piece. from inside to outside. And as always on project like this its necessary todo so..

    Couple of pics during the breaking part...

    http://imageshack.us/a/img607/6952/xxfm.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img200/5140/p0ng.jpg

    So steering wheel and seats out.. at this point it was bit scary to see if there was some "hidden rust"
    but it turned out quite well.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img855/6959/ab9t.jpg
    Rear floor:


    Front floor:



    After the taking apart the interior i had to make some room into garage i left bit of a mess behind me when i done the previous w201..

    Before

    http://imageshack.us/a/img194/2680/7zjv.jpg
    After

    http://imageshack.us/a/img18/9988/k492.jpg

    And then i needed new tools.. how would i do custom bushings without a lathe and a press? it would be almost impossible? ... so

    Also these:


    And Here is the start of the project. Im trying to get a weekly update on how its moving forward.. and also on the way i try to write some sort of storyline also. for those who wants to read more about the process, so far its been pretty much bolt off and move on.

    ps. sorry for the couple non working images


    to end first update test of photobucket picture share.. if i could get rid of the damn slow imageshack ...


    Here on out i'll be using photobucket, will se what happens..
    Last edited by Exami; 11-12-2013 at 07:50 PM. Reason: Fixing image links
    Project car: MB 190E M50 Turbo build
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    yeah buddy

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    Demolition continues
    Bit early for the "weekly update"-schedule. Anyways the car needs to be to bare chassis well almost atleast.. So started by taking the car to garage and continued to take everything off part by part.



    Also removed the plastic side panels and washed those as those are going to be repainted also..




    Also found "nicely" done rust fixes... theres 3 similar to this:



    Someone was too damn lazy to remove the plasticparts to make a fix..

    Cleaning the engine bay.. and putting the car onto jack stands.



    Stock front suspension parts to trash, will get everything new there..



    Next: Engine removal + Start chassis modifications.
    Project car: MB 190E M50 Turbo build
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    Shame about the e34 getting stripped but you'll end up with one cool machine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacne_4 View Post
    Shame about the e34 getting stripped but you'll end up with one cool machine!

    G.
    Don't you worry those(3) E34 that was stripped cause of my build are already "dead" in point of no return basicly cause of RUST.
    Project car: MB 190E M50 Turbo build
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    Some pipes you say? Well of course and to roof rack? WHY NOT?!

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    In that case, let that engine live on!


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    I like this kind of madness
    Check out my Alfa restoration here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8l...7WzTiNj8Xy6C4A

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    Engine removal + some other bits
    Its yet again time for update! (im bad on schedules yet again earlier than weekly update)

    So, as it was pretty much taken apart around the engine before. It was easy job just to lift out the engine..



    Then i got chance to do some glass bead blasting on some parts(thanks to a friends of mine)


    After that parts needed some paint on them..




    After that got some new parts in Factory new BMW TYP210 Diff..



    Next in line is to start modifying the chassis + modifying rear subframe
    Project car: MB 190E M50 Turbo build
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    nice!

    but why again the w201 and not try it on the w123 platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by P78 View Post
    nice!

    but why again the w201 and not try it on the w123 platform
    Well those are kinda hard to find in condition that they are even half decent.. and then there is the difference in suspension..
    might be "excuses" but i feel more comfortable with the W201 chassis as i have knowledge in it cause of the previous project and there is quite cheap parts out and such..

    I think this is still going to be heck of a fight against time & monies to spring. Also this might be too early to say but im thinking when this car is finished it will be last Benz i own. Im not planing to sell it but im planing to move over to other makes
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    this^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by P78 View Post
    we need more benz' on this forum!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Marsss View Post
    this^^^
    You guys need to buy more benz' then? i already got 2 that both are shown here. so im doing my share of the benz'n around here
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    i like that you're working on a 190e
    i like that you're giving it a full overhaul.
    i've read your other build thread so i know you what you're doing.
    turbo 190e = sex
    but i just can't get into it. im not a purist at all (putting an ls1 in my 190e soon) but the idea of a bmw motor in a 190e isn't my thing.
    regardless, ill still be watching this and liking what you do. keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by w201e34 View Post
    i like that you're working on a 190e
    i like that you're giving it a full overhaul.
    i've read your other build thread so i know you what you're doing.
    turbo 190e = sex
    but i just can't get into it. im not a purist at all (putting an ls1 in my 190e soon) but the idea of a bmw motor in a 190e isn't my thing.
    regardless, ill still be watching this and liking what you do. keep it up!
    LS would be wicked! but the driverside manifold will be problem cause of the steering bits.

    That kind of swap would not be street legal here. but the M50 Turbo will be which is kinda crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exami View Post
    LS would be wicked! but the driverside manifold will be problem cause of the steering bits.
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    There's a solution for everything...



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    Bits n' bobs
    Not sure what to share or dare i share it.. i know my previous stuff have stayed together and worked well but this time I'm pushing my self and my skill to kinda limit. When ever it seems i might know even remotely that i know what im doing its not sure. But the sure thing is i know how to use caliper and take measurements..

    So i started the rear sub frame modification first of all things bolt up the old diff, plan a some kind of jig to make the pieces stay as they 'should'?

    Make sure the jig parts are welded properly!

    And start hacking the subframe!


    And after hacking fit the new diff and think "what the heck im doing? is there easier way?"


    And for sobbing a bit you start getting hold of your self and start making new mounts for the diff!


    Might not be the prettiest thing in the world but its welded pretty tough from both inside and outside to make sure. and its made out of 5mm thick industrial steel

    Anyway after that i had to make a plan how to make it attach to the subframe once again..
    so making some kind of plan here..


    At this point i all i knew i had to check all measurements after every single bit of weld many times. just to make sure.. after a while it started looking quite good, well im happy about it.



    After that it was time for the rear 'mounts' as this diff sits in BMW its only by a 4 bolts on front and 1 from back.. well i needed to make a different plan as i hacked the subframes rear wall pretty badly i needed to get some strength to it and make sure the diff stays where it supposed.. I planned something like this:


    So 4 bolts to diff and 1 for the rear cover.. and those 4 are the same that holds the rear cover of course, should stay on even on harsh ride?

    End product before paint seems something like this:



    And for the bobs of the update..

    I started cleaning the shittiest rust fixes out, not going to weld them shut yet cause i need to drop the rollcage trough the floor...
    Start:


    And the rusty bits out..


    Woah that was a hefty story hope you like it
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    You are making good progress!

    Keep up the good work!

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    im gonna be doing something similar with the subframe, as i plan on using a 4:10 skyline diff. good work on that!
    and steering rack is easy, rack and pinion rack from a w211 e class and shorty headers
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    Quote Originally Posted by w201e34 View Post
    im gonna be doing something similar with the subframe, as i plan on using a 4:10 skyline diff. good work on that!
    and steering rack is easy, rack and pinion rack from a w211 e class and shorty headers
    I hope you start project topic aswell here in stanceworks! as you told about the W211 steering rack, i found out that some guys around the world has used W210 steering rack to fit V8 engines to W201, there is not whole alot information about it.

    It will be quite a some project of its own to make sure the steering geometry stays the same with the steering rack. cause of that and as i've tested the MB oem steering system with BMW powersteering ill stay with things that will work for now!
    Project car: MB 190E M50 Turbo build
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