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    I've been lurking on sw for a while now and every time someone mentions race land coil overs they get flamed and sh*t like that. i just read a whole bunch of reviews on other forums and what not and they all said that for 300 dollars they are WELL worth it and not as bad of ride as people think. i recently purchased my first car and am on a low budget, so I've been thinking about purchasing a set of race land coil overs. opinions?

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    If you want to get low for cheap, racelands do the trick, but don't expect the ride quality to be great. I had them on my e36 and the previous owner has been rocking them too. probably around 2-3 years now.

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    because itīs cheap quality! the springs will break soon and the shock absorbers will leak, the thread is not good and the nut will jamme.

    the price in europe is 200$ (depends on the car!)...the price for a good coil over like kw, h&r or bilstein for the same car is 1000-1500$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    the springs will break


    WAT



    (Racelands are fine, I've had them on two mk4s and both cars drove thousands of miles on them, roadtrips, city, whatever. They are currently on my wife's car and have been for the past two years. The threads have never seized on me, and the struts have never blown. Obviously 1000+ coilovers do ride better, but if you don't have the money for that, Racelands are not horrible coilovers that break apart)

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    Quote Originally Posted by willis View Post
    WAT



    (Racelands are fine, I've had them on two mk4s and both cars drove thousands of miles on them, roadtrips, city, whatever. They are currently on my wife's car and have been for the past two years. The threads have never seized on me, and the struts have never blown. Obviously 1000+ coilovers do ride better, but if you don't have the money for that, Racelands are not horrible coilovers that break apart)
    yeah so basically for a high school student on a low budget that can barely afford the car, insurance, gas, mods and won't be driving too much.... race lands are the way to go. correct me if I'm wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    ..the springs will break soon
    They really wont.

    The lower you go, the harder and bouncier the ride is going to be. If you want to lower your car and get by for a year or two until you can afford better coilovers then go for it.
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    My Buddy has racelands on his tC. Ride really really nice. Fit perfect. Go Low. 0 problems so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylerhasaphone. View Post
    My Buddy has racelands on his tC. Ride really really nice. Fit perfect. Go Low. 0 problems so far.
    Lol, ride nice compared to what?

    Most people that talk about how awesome racelands are have zero experience with a quality set of coils.

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    I had racelands in my E36 they went pretty low but they started leaking after 1000km (500ish miles) and then the base of the coilover sheared and left the stub axle was pretty messy :banghead:

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    I have Racelands on my Mk2 Jetta, my friend had H&R's on his Mk2 Golf. The H&R's were better obviously, but not crazy outta this world better. If you only cruise around and aren't a motorsports nut, Racelands will most likely do the job for you.

    But its funny though. People who mention Raceland get flamed by the people who cut springs...

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    the spring breaks! itīs only a matter of time! raceland had the worst quality i ever had seen. if somebody is interestes in going deep -> cut the springs. cheaper an better. if somebody is interested in a good supsesion kit -> donīt buy this pice of scrap.

    raceland coilover, 5000km, it was done!

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    if you want to go very deep: check the "lowtec" coilover. is that available in the states? -> http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_trksi...rwerk&_sacat=0 complete different coilover with good quality!
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    I got the Raceland Ultimos on my MKV now . I got them cause I planned to go air this winter and couldn't see the sense in buying expensive coils when I plan on going air. the ride on the Ultimos is firm and there is some spring noise but for a 300 coilover what do u expect? I am happy with them and I think I am getting my moneys worth out of them . None of them leak and the rings spin freely

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    from my experience i find my racelands a poor ride quality.
    i previously had Fk highsports on a car, and have had 4 cars with racelands on. the ride quality is definatly a lot worse on the cheaper one. and Fk's were only Ģ600.
    at the moment on my e36 im running the fronts with no helpers, and replaced the rears with spax dampening adjustable shocks and 4inch 500lb linear springs.
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    if i was in your situation id do it

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    Your springs will break they said! Buahahahahahahahah
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    You get what you pay for. Racelands do in fact ride like absolute shit, but on the other hand they cost less than a good cold air intake. And occasionally, they do in fact break apart. There have been a few threads about just that happening. I dont personally know if Raceland has addressed whatever issue was causing that to happen, but it something worth looking into if you're considering buying a set.

    For me- I'm running my Bilstein/H&R race setup until I can set aside enough play money to buy Broadways or KWs.
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    I think it also depends on the way your struts are manufactured. For instance. My Subaru forester is on ultimos. Here's why I didn't mind trying them: the way the Subaru coils (and my old vw mk3) are set up are they have 2 sets of collars for adjustments. The top 2 rings adjust where the spring sits on the strut like every other coil over. The second set allows you to spin the strut itself through the fully threaded mounting bracket thus adjusting ride height. In doing so... you do not compromise any strut travel. So right now my exhaust is less than an inch from the ground with full shock travel.

    As far as I'm concerned... if you aren't shortening the shock travel to bare minimum like you do on say a set of VW mk4 coilovers (adjustment is just spring in body) you shouldn't have a problem with bouncy suspension and blowing seals.

    Oh BTW... the ride is not comparable to damping adjustable koni coils... but they ride fine for slammed daily use for my application.

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    Cheap coilovers are what they are....cheap but then not all of us can afford broadways or air ride either.

    I run ta technix on mine which are 175 new .never blown or siezed and ok ride wise and if they go I will buy some more seeing as I can buy three sets to a half decent set of coilovers and still have change left.
    Just because someone runs racelands doesnt mean there an idiot its just a cheap set that for the average joe perfectly fine for what they want.

    The biggest idiots are people who cut springs imo

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    Honestly, for the price, you aren't going to beat it. What are your other options? Coil sleeves on stock junk shocks/struts? The Racelands are going to be MILES ahead of that combo. The old adage rings true, you do get what you pay for, but if you're on a budget these aren't terrible. People simply need to realize that ride and materials quality suffers with lower cost, that's just the way of the world. Obviously a higher-quality suspension is going to cost several times more, but again, you get what you pay for via materials and ride quality.

    Most kids these days are only buying coilovers to "get low", and are willing to sacrifice longevity and ride quality to dump their cars - they've equated a shitty ride to a low car in their minds, and its' akin to leading a horse to water to get them to change their minds.

    But what do I know, I just build my own suspension setups.
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    If you are going to bash the coilovers, at least give him other options in HIS budget... no?

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    cheap coils are for the kids to play.

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    I bought an e46 to flip and it came with racelands on it. The ride was shit, and the spring rates are laughable. But they are cheap so what do you expect. Hell, I bought an e36 after I flipped the e46 and threw racelands on it after I got it running again just to slam it so I could sell it to some kid who thought it looked cool. Made 2k off of a high school kid so I guess it did the trick..

    They make a lot of noise too... my .02

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    I had Spax coils in my mk2 golf, front struts burst in 6 months. It took the guts of that time again to get the new front struts under warranty, by the time they arrived the car was off the road for a tidy up.

    For my mx5, the car cost around Ģ500 all in, so there was no f'ing way I was going to spend more than the car cost for a suspension set up. I put racelands in and to be fair, they were fine, certainly better than the tired stock suspension, they achieved my goal of lows for cheap.

    Would I use them for a track focussed car? No.
    Would I use them to lower my car for road use? Yes.

    I have found no issue with them to be honest and the car was being used daily on mostly country roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanDub View Post
    Lol, ride nice compared to what?

    Most people that talk about how awesome racelands are have zero experience with a quality set of coils.
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    what's so bad is they wear out, ride becomes progressively worse over time, especially when low.
    They don't ride too well from the start as it is.

    If you are cool with the ride being mediocre/fair/poor and just wanna dump, then absolutely.

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