Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 98

Thread: What does "Stanced" mean to you?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Socal
    Posts
    370

    Default What does "Stanced" mean to you?

    Thought I would start a thread since there seem to be multiple opinions.

    IMO, Low is number 1 (coilovers, air, cut springs) and at the very least flush wheels(don't have to be rare/expensive but it definitely takes it to another level) with a minimum mild stretch. What do you guys think?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,626

    Default

    no more than 1 finger wheel gap
    wheels within 5mm of fenders
    mild stretch
    no 20" wheels on small cars or something stupid

    thats the minimum for me, obviously lower and wider is better.
    1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged
    Stance:Nation Feature | Build Thread

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    san diego
    Posts
    1,098

    Default

    i think a car is stanced when:

    -strech tires
    -unique style
    -its gotta scrape (unless your on airr...but still haha)
    -flushness

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Navarre Florida
    Posts
    692

    Default

    stance =


    not equal to

    IE if you hit a bump, and your fender says fuck you, thats not stance. That is buying wheels too low offset/wide for your car, and trying to look cool. if you cannot have full suspension travel even slammed, then you arent in the category
    Disclaimer:
    I am rude, opinionated, and sometimes come off as a dick. I am just speaking my mind. If it offends you, PM me. Don't go whine to someone else. I am civil, talk to me, just dont be stupid.

    and USE THE SEARCH BUTTON

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    1,227

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshLikeSushi View Post
    If you cannot have full suspension travel even slammed, then you arent in the category
    This is impossible in some cars such as MK4 VWs if you're pushing the offsets lower or wheels wider bc of the suspension design. Solid rear beam = wheel travel straight up and down, unlike an IRS which tucks in as the suspension compresses, so at some point rubbing will happen even with the best offsets, widths, tire sizes, etc.

    Stance is relevant to every car. There's no set definition of good or bad stance as it really depends on each car and its wheel/tire choice and suspension setup. You don't have to be the lowest to have stance nor do you need to have the widest wheels. It's a matter of how everything flows together.

    As a sidenote, I **** when people use stance as a verb. It's a damn adjective


    Flickr

    Quote Originally Posted by Kielan View Post
    Oh FUCK YES, 6-10 inches for me this weekend. FUCK YES!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Navarre Florida
    Posts
    692

    Default

    Nah man, iev seen PLENTY of mk4s with no poke, that are awesome.


    Again, if the fender is going to get crushed, because you thought poking was cool. its not stance, its poke. stance is when its still usable. when you hit that bump, your wheel can travel...not into your fender.

    If you are pushing the offsets lower then flush, then you are just going mexiflush. flush is flush is flush. i dunno when or why poke started being the in thing. it will pass.
    Disclaimer:
    I am rude, opinionated, and sometimes come off as a dick. I am just speaking my mind. If it offends you, PM me. Don't go whine to someone else. I am civil, talk to me, just dont be stupid.

    and USE THE SEARCH BUTTON

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    SoCal- S|W
    Posts
    1,505

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshLikeSushi View Post
    If you are pushing the offsets lower then flush, then you are just going mexiflush. flush is flush is flush. i dunno when or why poke started being the in thing. it will pass.
    Flush isn't a requirement of stance...end of story. It's a genre of stance that just happens to be made popular recently by the hellaflush/jdm crowd. Poke is just as much a type of (good) stance as flush is. Just look at the past years of VW's where stance has been present for quite a while. Any of the stance threads are riddled with well executed poke and quality stances. Flush is not the be-all-end-all of stance.

    Trying to narrow stance down to just having flush-stance just seems silly. There are a bunch of respectable forms of stance from poke, to flush, to tuck, etc. As long as your paying attention to fitment, ride height, wheel specs, and the overall way your car sits....you're trying to achieve a stance.


  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    MEL Australia
    Posts
    23,115

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshLikeSushi View Post
    Nah man, iev seen PLENTY of mk4s with no poke, that are awesome.


    Again, if the fender is going to get crushed, because you thought poking was cool. its not stance, its poke. stance is when its still usable. when you hit that bump, your wheel can travel...not into your fender.

    If you are pushing the offsets lower then flush, then you are just going mexiflush. flush is flush is flush. i dunno when or why poke started being the in thing. it will pass.
    I believe stance does not fall under one category. Pretty sure there is no set guidelines as to what is and isnt stance. Low and flush are just key ingredients, you then add your own style and think for yourself (not follow sheep) to create stance.

    I have seen many cars with poke that i consider stanced, because stance is about the way the car looks and sits as a whole. Which aaron pretty much already said. You cant look at a side on pic of the top of a wheel arch and judge if the car is stanced.

    Like i said, you need to see the car as a whole. Everything is a factor when it comes to stance...
    Quote Originally Posted by anth View Post
    Lucky they didn't come into your house and disrespect your whole family.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    MEL Australia
    Posts
    23,115

    Default

    What Rally said :P
    Quote Originally Posted by anth View Post
    Lucky they didn't come into your house and disrespect your whole family.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    1,227

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshLikeSushi View Post
    Nah man, iev seen PLENTY of mk4s with no poke, that are awesome.


    Again, if the fender is going to get crushed, because you thought poking was cool. its not stance, its poke. stance is when its still usable. when you hit that bump, your wheel can travel...not into your fender.

    If you are pushing the offsets lower then flush, then you are just going mexiflush. flush is flush is flush. i dunno when or why poke started being the in thing. it will pass.
    Well tuck vs poke is a whole other discussion to have

    Poke isn't a new thing, it's been done for years and years. I just don't like when someone tries to say there's only one correct way to get a good stance on a car bc that just isn't the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxer View Post
    I believe stance does not fall under one category. Pretty sure there is no set guidelines as to what is and isnt stance. Low and flush are just key ingredients, you then add your own style and think for yourself (not follow sheep) to create stance.

    I have seen many cars with poke that i consider stanced, because stance is about the way the car looks and sits as a whole. Which aaron pretty much already said. You cant look at a side on pic of the top of a wheel arch and judge if the car is stanced.

    Like i said, you need to see the car as a whole. Everything is a factor when it comes to stance...
    This is very well said. Also, a car can have good stance even if it's not that low, it's just about how everything flows and fits together

    I agree 100% with what Rally said as well


    Flickr

    Quote Originally Posted by Kielan View Post
    Oh FUCK YES, 6-10 inches for me this weekend. FUCK YES!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    321 Florida
    Posts
    64

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by omarsxb951 View Post
    Thought I would start a thread since there seem to be multiple opinions.

    IMO, Low is number 1 (coilovers, air, cut springs) and at the very least flush wheels(don't have to be rare/expensive but it definitely takes it to another level) with a minimum mild stretch. What do you guys think?
    I like this one here, well put for sure! I was a little down after seeing some of the rides on here and the wheels they roll on! lol. I tried to see if I could hang but I cannot bring myself to it lol.


    Euro-O-So-Low

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    4,294,967,248

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxer View Post
    I believe stance does not fall under one category. Pretty sure there is no set guidelines as to what is and isnt stance. Low and flush are just key ingredients, you then add your own style and think for yourself (not follow sheep) to create stance.

    I have seen many cars with poke that i consider stanced, because stance is about the way the car looks and sits as a whole. Which aaron pretty much already said. You cant look at a side on pic of the top of a wheel arch and judge if the car is stanced.

    Like i said, you need to see the car as a whole. Everything is a factor when it comes to stance...
    This.

    There is NO set "stance" for a car. Stance does not automatically = low, wide, stretched, etc. It has to work for the car as a WHOLE, regardless of those factors. Some cars look better higher with bigger tires and narrower wheels, some don't. That's the whole point of stance, is for it to work with the car TOGETHER. Anything and everything on the car is a factor of its overall "stance."
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Christ View Post
    if "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesnt include being able to buy a huge veiny motherfucker then the declaration of independence isnt worth the hemp it was written on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    he speaks the truth.. he doesn't even have the -- -- eyes.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    3,523

    Default

    stance is like my penis, looks really hard, doesnt perform very well

    ig: @jonnie86

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    4,294,967,248

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck&Poke View Post
    stance is like my penis, looks really hard, doesnt perform very well
    I'm sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Christ View Post
    if "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesnt include being able to buy a huge veiny motherfucker then the declaration of independence isnt worth the hemp it was written on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    he speaks the truth.. he doesn't even have the -- -- eyes.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    4,237

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshLikeSushi View Post
    Nah man, iev seen PLENTY of mk4s with no poke, that are awesome.


    Again, if the fender is going to get crushed, because you thought poking was cool. its not stance, its poke. stance is when its still usable. when you hit that bump, your wheel can travel...not into your fender.

    If you are pushing the offsets lower then flush, then you are just going mexiflush. flush is flush is flush. i dunno when or why poke started being the in thing. it will pass.
    no.

    Poke is not a fad, It dates back to german TUV laws along time ago in germany. This isnt just people pushing there wheels out in the past 3 or 4 years.

    You may prefer flushness, as do i, but that doesnt make one stance and the other not.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Socal
    Posts
    370

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck&Poke View Post
    stance is like my penis, looks really hard, doesnt perform very well

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    near Cologne, Germany
    Posts
    5,504

    Default

    For me it's all about the lowest possible fender gap (max. 1 finger thick is acceptable in most cases) with the wheels flowing very well with the shape of the car, or the car's fenders as it may be.

    For me it's very important how the wheels flow with the car's fenders.



    1. Fenders that flare outwards and have a "lip" that goes almost straight down. I like flush wheels with mild stretch the best (example: E36, E30)

    2. Fenders that flare smoothly outwards with no or very little lip. I like it when the wheel pokes a bit (not too much though!) and the stretch continues the flow of the fender.

    3. Fenders that go straight down. Here, tuck is best, imo. Depending on the car, flush may also look very good.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Wilts, UK
    Posts
    23

    Default

    This ^^ but with a comob of 1 and 2 too.

    Mk IV's are a good example of what I'm on about.

    Last edited by Chris.; 01-06-2010 at 01:03 PM.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    OC
    Posts
    679

    Default

    Good stuff fellas, I think it's the magic that happens when you combine all of the items or factors mentioned above and you throw it all together and each factor complements the others to work together as one...I like how someone mentioned earlier that it differs from ride to ride.

    ...however you define it, I'll admit it gets me all hot n' bothered

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Livermore/ Bay Area
    Posts
    316

    Default

    Stance to me is all about how it sits. I have seen lifted trucks that sit just right, I have also seen cars and trucks tuck half the wheel into the fender that made my jaw drop. I have also seen 32 ford coupes with no fenders with great stance. To me all of these are examples of good stance. But this is just my humble opinion....

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Navarre Florida
    Posts
    692

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rally View Post
    Flush isn't a requirement of stance...end of story. It's a genre of stance that just happens to be made popular recently by the hellaflush/jdm crowd.
    Yeah, check those facts just a little bit.
    Last edited by FreshLikeSushi; 01-06-2010 at 04:20 PM.
    Disclaimer:
    I am rude, opinionated, and sometimes come off as a dick. I am just speaking my mind. If it offends you, PM me. Don't go whine to someone else. I am civil, talk to me, just dont be stupid.

    and USE THE SEARCH BUTTON

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Navarre Florida
    Posts
    692

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.AK View Post
    For me it's all about the lowest possible fender gap (max. 1 finger thick is acceptable in most cases) with the wheels flowing very well with the shape of the car, or the car's fenders as it may be.

    For me it's very important how the wheels flow with the car's fenders.



    1. Fenders that flare outwards and have a "lip" that goes almost straight down. I like flush wheels with mild stretch the best (example: E36, E30)

    2. Fenders that flare smoothly outwards with no or very little lip. I like it when the wheel pokes a bit (not too much though!) and the stretch continues the flow of the fender.

    3. Fenders that go straight down. Here, tuck is best, imo. Depending on the car, flush may also look very good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    no.

    Poke is not a fad, It dates back to german TUV laws along time ago in germany. This isnt just people pushing there wheels out in the past 3 or 4 years.

    You may prefer flushness, as do i, but that doesnt make one stance and the other not.
    you are right. I just prefer not to buckle my fenders if i hit a bump, and tuck 18s while still fush through travel. im cool with that. But im just wondering why you guys poke, when there isnt a reason to. I mean, i can hang a tire 3 inches outside of my van and be slammed. but that doesnt mean im "pushing" offsets. it means im putting too big of a wheel on a car.
    this isnt to start drama, seriously. im just trying to understand it.
    1 ftw
    Last edited by FreshLikeSushi; 01-06-2010 at 04:19 PM.
    Disclaimer:
    I am rude, opinionated, and sometimes come off as a dick. I am just speaking my mind. If it offends you, PM me. Don't go whine to someone else. I am civil, talk to me, just dont be stupid.

    and USE THE SEARCH BUTTON

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    4,294,967,248

    Default

    It comes to an extremely brief answer of: It's a style. Much like "flush" is style, stretch and "poke" is a style.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Christ View Post
    if "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesnt include being able to buy a huge veiny motherfucker then the declaration of independence isnt worth the hemp it was written on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    he speaks the truth.. he doesn't even have the -- -- eyes.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    4,237

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by extol1337 View Post
    It comes to an extremely brief answer of: It's a style. Much like "flush" is style, stretch and "poke" is a style.
    +1

    If youre so practical minded, why be this low? Or hell, why even me flush? stock height and tucked is much more practical. Its just the style

    Edit: im not trying to come off as a douche, its just the truth. Pretty much all styles of aggressive fitment are impractical. If they werent, im sure all cars would be beefier
    Last edited by Stephen; 01-06-2010 at 04:31 PM.

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    SoCal- S|W
    Posts
    1,505

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FreshLikeSushi View Post
    But im just wondering why you guys poke, when there isnt a reason to.
    It doesn't have any less "reason" than running a flush setup. There isn't any "reason" to run flush other than aesthetic value and the same holds true for poking. It's a look that some owners love. That's sorta the whole "reason" for the stance thing isn't it? To look good and have a tight fitment

    I've run poke for a few years now and never buckled or damaged an arch. That's what stretched tires and camber are for.


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •