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Thread: DIY three piece wheel assembly / installation bbs, fikse, ccw, kinesis, etc

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    Yes, put threadlocker on them. Usually on wheels such as BBS which have more bolts I use the blue threadlocker. My HRE's only have 20 bolts so I used red. Makes no difference, the red is just harder to undo. Don't overtighten the bolts just so you don't have to use threadlocker either.

    -Matt

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    i have a question, for bbs lms when i reverse mount them, do the bolt holes have to be shaven/machined down so the edge is flush when its mounted inside the barrel?

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    does anybody know where i can purchase that dow 733 glue for the wheels? i emailed the person who created this thread but his email doesnt work.

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    Awesome post. Should be a sticky. I did my wheels following your instructions and they turned out great, no leaks. Thanks for the post

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    Thanks

    As for the threadlock question.. You can use threadlocker but it's not always necessary. If using it though, I would recommend using loctite blue 232: http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_l...r-Blue-242.htm

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    i think we should add to this stickies about how the faces should be mounted and how certain ones have different mounting options since i used this to build my wheels and made the mistake of mounting the faces incorrectly on my oz futuras, so no one else makes the mistake

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    followed this diy thread, worked perfect!

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    Glad to hear it!
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    I will be doing this over the next winter to Fikse FM-5's. This DIY will definitely come in handy. I called Fikse to get a price on lips for my 17's and they said $255 each. Is that pretty standard across the board?

    I found this video. Thought I would share

    http://youtu.be/M7FqNluXsY4
    Last edited by brandonford; 03-29-2013 at 07:41 PM.

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    Just about to start build my set. This is a great write up!
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    finally bought a Stanly-Proto 16-80 lb. click-type torque wrench for my wheel assembly needs.

    now I'm looking at torque specs for my rims. I have BBS RF's with 7mm bolts, they are new stainless bolts from Tunershop with blue thread locker already on them.

    I've read torque specs as low as 14-16 lbs for used bolts and as high as 40lbs for new bolts on a BBS RS but people seem to mention 8mm bolts...I see nothing about 7mm.

    then I'll be tearing into my Cromodoras, they also look like 7mm bolts. so I would guess the torque spec would be the same. I will either use the same stainless bolts new from Tunershop or the ones they sell in black...not certain what those are made of. I might just get stainless ones and make them black myself with chemicals from my work.

    I guess I really just want to know what the best torque spec is for new bolts. I'm inclined to go with 25-30 lb cause it's right in the middle of the range of posts I've seen.

    I'd also like to know what grade the typical wheel bolt is ? grade 8 grade 10 or ?
    any reason I couldn't use other bolts of the same grade ? for instance a button head allen or torque drive bolt ? aside from the typical wide flange, what is special about wheel bolts ?

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    now...here's a guy on another forum ...
    just received an email from BBS in Germany who state the torque setting is 15Nm.
    and a post or two above him...
    The measurement is in inch/lbs. Only use an inch/lbs torque wrench, don't convert to foot lbs.
    and just to do what should not be done...
    15 newton meter = 11.063 432 209 pound foot
    via http://www.onlineconversion.com/torque.htm


    heh...could drive ya crazy huh ?

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    I'm pretty sure almost all BBS use M7 bolts. M8 is used by HRE, Forgiato, Asanti, etc. I believe.

    Original BBS hardware toque specs I've been told is 22 ft/lbs and new is 40 ft/lbs on RS bolts.

    -Matt

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    when you guys re-seal 3pc wheels, did you all shave down on the powdercoating, or paint on the mating surfaces, of did you just lay the silicone down over the pait/powdercoat and bolt them together?
    I haz 4 wimz. need 4 more.

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    Anybody in the orlando area who has performed this ?

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    I put mine together yesterday. All 4 done. Gonna mount runner tomorrow.
    I sanded off all the pc and lay a bead of ultra blue rtf silicone on the inside and outside of the holes the. Mates up the outer lip. Dropped the face in and bolted them in.
    Doing 2 at one point. Then 180 degrees then 90 from that and then 180 again. 2 at a time.
    The. After putting in the other bolts. I flipped it upright and lay another bead over where the inner and outer meet and squeezed out silicone. Then used a finger in a latex glove and pressed and spread the silicone all around at said junction.
    I haz 4 wimz. need 4 more.

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    Should you use silicone on the bolts as well?

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    Never use silicone on the bolts!
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    great write up. sticky please.
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    Nice write up.

    I am assembling a set of BBS e26 Motorsport wheels.

    They have center rings with rubber o-rings that are installed in between the lips and barrels. I plan on sealing them up as you did. Will use Dow Corning 832 adhesive sealant.

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    Great thread

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    What's the best way to remove the silicone after?

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    A razor blade and scotch-brite, or a wire wheel attachment on a cordless drill / drill press.
    @Thatcher
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    I got a fresh lip and barrel from rotifrom and sealed them up good....but i forgot to scruff up surface before putting down bead....has anyone done without having issues? I know the bead is not holding wheel together but just keeping air in.... just wondering.


    Thanks,

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    Can I use any 34 hole barrel/lip to rebuild bmw style 5's/19's from 2-piece to 3-piece wheels?
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