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    Default S-Cargo: 1995 UrS6 Avant

    I decided to go ahead and make another thread, just because these are different cars and I don't want the old thread to get super cluttered. Anyway, after owning a 1995 S6 sedan for about a year and a half, I reluctantly sold it to buy this thing. Here's the old thread for reference.

    Anyway, there's a bit of an interesting story behind this wagon. Audi brought around 300 of these into the US for the model year 1995 only. Over half of them were green, and this one is black and has some rare options like the rear-facing third row seat. When I bought my sedan what I really wanted was an Avant, but they were a lot harder to come by and a lot more expensive. I met my buddy Nick through buying parts for my sedan, and he had been building this Avant for several years. I was up in Asheville last fall and he mentioned he might be ready to part with the car... essentially, I told him to let me know when he was ready and I would try to sell my sedan. To make a long story short, we hashed out a price and my sedan sold in less than 24 hours. While we were in the negotiation process, my gf and I happened to go to Asheville and took the car for a drive. He handed me the keys and told me to "beat the shit out of it" on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Needless to say, we worked a price out and I was able to bring the car home over the weekend.

    So here's some general info in case you aren't familiar with these cars. These all came with a 2.2L I5 called the AAN that was pretty much the final evolution of the original Audi 5-cylinder engines mated to a 5-speed manual and AWD. Stock power figures are something like 230hp/260tq but these are known for being bulletproof (if a little finicky sometimes) and responding very well to mods. This car is no exception, having been tuned for the first time in 2001 and modified further over time since.

    Here is a semi comprehensive list of what's been done to the car thus far.

    - EFR 6258 turbo
    - 034Motorsport 7A turbo manifold
    - 7A cams (for more top end, the 7A is the N/A 5cyl)
    - 7A valve cover
    - VEMS engine management with tune from EFI Express
    - DEKA 630cc injectors
    - Aquamist water/meth injection
    - 6 speed swapped out of a B5 S4
    - 17Z Porsche brake calipers with A8 rotors
    - Carbon interior trim only available in 1993 S4's
    - Euro headlights and taillights
    - Bilstein/H&R suspension
    - Poly subframe bushings

    Now onto the pics! The car handled the 3 hour drive home to Atlanta like a champ.




    Engine bay:




    Interior (a little dirty in the pic, sorry but in great shape)




    Check out these headrests. I have never seen these before on a C4 platform car, but they sure are comfy. Also note the giant headrests for the rear seats lol.




    Safe and sound in Atlanta!






    The car came with a book of service records dating back to 2001. Pretty cool to look through.




    Right after we got back to ATL, we went to Home Depot to buy a lawnmower. Good thing I had a wagon. When we went to load the mower in, the rear hatch handle wouldn't open. I had to crawl in through the back and use the inside handle, which was pretty annoying but after spending several hours fiddling with the extremely fragile and complicated hatch trim I figured it out. Had to remove the rear wiper and motor to see the latch mechanism. I don't know if this pic conveys it very well, but there is a pin that connects the rod on the right side to everything else. Snugged it down and my hatch works again.




    Girlfriend enjoying the 3rd row accommodations while watching me curse at annoying plastic trim.





    Anyway, thanks for making it this far. Future plans? I need to clean up the front and rear bumpers, do paint correction, and obviously get the car low. I have to say I am kinda enjoying the big old boat feeling this thing has now. It corners pretty decent but is high enough that it's comfy and fast enough that it's amusing especially in the highway pull department.
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    So awesome, I am jealous. I had the chance to buy one of these before but passed on it. Cant wait to see what you do to it in the future.
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    That's a very purposeful looking engine, great looking big car
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    Dude that is awesome.
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    Not usually a fan of audi wagons but this is really cool, never saw one with rear facing seats!

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    with the rear-facing seat, how are these cars not the go-to for h20i legal rolling shots?

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    This is cool as shit, I can see why you sold the sedan to pick it up.


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    Sweet upgrade from the sedan, look like a more solid platform to build upon! Although the fact that it's an Avant was reason enough alone to make the switch haha


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroteknik View Post
    with the rear-facing seat, how are these cars not the go-to for h20i legal rolling shots?
    Dude could roll in OC with a "rolling shot machine up for hiring" sticker on his doors and return home with heaps of money

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    Yay you made a new thread!



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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    So awesome, I am jealous. I had the chance to buy one of these before but passed on it. Cant wait to see what you do to it in the future.
    Thanks man. I guess it says a lot about how much I love these cars that I sold my sedan, had money burning a hole in my pocket for months, and still waited and bought this avant. If you ever get the chance to buy another UrS I would highly recommend it!!
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    Dude that is awesome.
    Thanks buddy!
    Quote Originally Posted by Miroteknik View Post
    with the rear-facing seat, how are these cars not the go-to for h20i legal rolling shots?
    Great idea. "What do you mean officer? I'm buckled up." Hoping to bring the car to H2Oi and Helen this year.


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    Not an Audi fan at all, except if they are fast wagons!
    This one looks so clean, it's almost new!

    Quote Originally Posted by rightfullrudder View Post
    Thought I would show you guys what parts availability looks like for this platform. These are the only coilovers you can buy today, from 2Bennett in California. Check out this 1997 website!!

    For this price I think you can make a custom set because I don't think they are made for going low

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    I've been dailying the car to work, etc for the last 2 weeks and it's been going pretty well so far. Chasing a misfire at idle and under part/low throttle situations the car will sometimes surge. Runs great at WOT. To make matters a little more interesting, the car is on VEMS standalone management, so it looks like I'm gonna have to get familiarized with ECU tuning.

    Tried out this stuff called Sonax Spray & Seal, pretty impressed. It's a little pricey ($20 a bottle will get you maybe 4 applications) but it takes about 2 minutes to apply. Wash car, keep it wet, mist on body panels, rinse thoroughly. I applied it to the S5 and decided to do the Avant as well, just for fun.




    One of the pre-existing conditions the car had when we negotiated the sale was that the speedometer didn't work. Before I picked it up, the previous owner replaced the ring in the transmission, which made the speedo work again but intermittently. It would bounce around and drop back to zero during moderate to hard acceleration, and sometimes just not work at all. Sometimes working in an auto parts distribution center pays off -- we happened to have the vehicle speed sensor on the shelf, so I picked it up for $10 and we replaced it. Look how grimy the old one was. Problem solved!




    Haven't felt like dealing with hot coolant after work this week, but the old coolant reservoir looks hideous and is so cloudy you can't see how much coolant you have. It's just barely starting to seep as these reservoirs are notorious for doing. Picked up a new one because why not?




    This car has a Stromung exhaust, which for some reason people go insane about. It's the only quality aftermarket option for Ur-S cars, in my opinion not at all worth $1500+ because it's incredibly quiet and my muffler shop special custom exhaust on my sedan sounded way better, but that's beside the point. The tips were disgusting and past the point of no return if I wanted to keep the chrome. Wetsanded with 2000 grit and they're a nice brushed looking finish. I'm very tempted to do another ghetto straight pipe to dual tip on the Avant so I can sell the Stromung for $$$$.




    We got all the cars together for a family photo! Well, sorta.




    Finally.... Car phone, who dis? By the way, undecided on wheels for this thing. Really leaning towards something modular, German, and period correct. Any suggestions?

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    I love how I only keep up with the little naunces of your car from your build thread! I didn't know any of this until that coolant reservoir showed up on our doorstep haha. As for that sealant, I call dibs on using it on the Focus this weekend!

    As for wheels, I know you're a sucker for period-correct Euro! I think some Porsche Cup wheels, OZ Futuras, or even a set of Fuchs (Too bad we just sold mine, but they'd be too small anyways.) would be cool. I almost said BBS LM but ehhhh idk. The avant has such a big butt I want big strong wheels on it. Borbet Type A? I don't know. Something weird. Look at this big low daddy!



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    In my opinion this needs something BIG, do you want to keep period correct tyre sizes or just period correct design?
    I would like something like porsche turbos on it (etabeta or maybe artec?) or carline cm6s, but in 18-19 size. But that is just in the "euro classic" category, I think something jdm and nuts would look crazy on this big dadwagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenz View Post
    I love how I only keep up with the little naunces of your car from your build thread! I didn't know any of this until that coolant reservoir showed up on our doorstep haha. As for that sealant, I call dibs on using it on the Focus this weekend!

    As for wheels, I know you're a sucker for period-correct Euro! I think some Porsche Cup wheels, OZ Futuras, or even a set of Fuchs (Too bad we just sold mine, but they'd be too small anyways.) would be cool. I almost said BBS LM but ehhhh idk. The avant has such a big butt I want big strong wheels on it. Borbet Type A? I don't know. Something weird. Look at this big low daddy!

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    I am definitely down for some big thicc wheels on it. <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruttolo View Post
    In my opinion this needs something BIG, do you want to keep period correct tyre sizes or just period correct design?
    I would like something like porsche turbos on it (etabeta or maybe artec?) or carline cm6s, but in 18-19 size. But that is just in the "euro classic" category, I think something jdm and nuts would look crazy on this big dadwagon
    I just kind of want design that would work cohesively with the lines of the car. The sedan's Anteras were pretty objectively ugly but still kinda worked with the car haha. This thing being a wagon can pull off 19s better than a sedan so I might end up going with 19s. Definitely not 16s or 17s, they may have come with 16s from the factory but these cars are just too big for that sort of thing.

    I would love to find some SSR Koening to make the brakes really pop.

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    Installed the FK badgeless grille I had in storage.



    Gave the interior some love. This photo is of what was extracted from only the driver's side floor mat. The PO was a big mountain biker so while the interior was in good shape, it was just very dirty.



    Results.

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    Get on S2forum, there's loads of threads and info about these cars. Urs4boy (dave) is from Canada and great with help and tips for keeping them running.

    My previous s2 ran fine when cold but when warm the coilpacks broke down under boost, the wiring goes brittle underneath the cover, at least yours has been upgraded.

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    Nice car!

    For coilovers I'd send GAZ Shocks in UK an email. I've asked them about a set for my Audi V8 and the price is way better than 2 Bennet's. + you only really need the fronts if you can't fabricate them yourself. The rear's you get a set of threaded tubes that will slide over a stock damper body, the original spring seat will hold it in place. If you're going to go way low a set of shorter dampers all around would be for the best.
    For the front you can do the same if you have a welder. Remove the shock strut and cut of the original spring seat, maybe even shorten the tube if you get dampers with a shorter body. Then weld a ring in that will be the seat for the threaded tube. Then you can put bilstein shocks on and still have a much better setup for less than half of what 2 bennet wants

    Wheelwise... I've had two C4's, and look long for a set of 5x112 17" fat five's but never found a set while owning one of the C4's :/ But it's a wheel model that fit's it very well!

    Couple of pics from a finnish forum of a dark C4 Avant with fat fives: http://audi-style.lv/forum/topic/85916-opic-c4/page-2
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    Not a ton going on with the car but it is low-ish now! Right before Alpine VAG fair in Helen, GA I took the car down to my buddy's shop to work on suspension and A/C. Georgia heat is BRUTAL. Through some magical process of jiujitsu I ended up getting access to the same exact springs I was running on my old sedan. Turns out the new owner thought it rode too harshly...

    Anyway, here's the car on the lift. You can see the springs on -- with actual Bilstein Sports the ride is not bad at all and it feels a lot less like a boat.



    We also swapped AC compressors. What would have been a simple job turned into a pain in the ass because we broke the fitting off the compressor trying to unscrew it. Had to swap part of the housing from old compressor to new compressor. The AC blows pretty cold now, but I'm running into an issue where it doesn't like to return to idle with the AC on. Believe this is something related to the VEMS engine management and how it talks to the idle valve. Hopefully a new ISV will fix it.



    Made the 2 hour drive to Helen flawlessly, then it puked all its coolant into the parking lot literally as I pulled up to our Airbnb.



    Turns out the problem was the exact same heater core return hose under the intake manifold that failed on my last UrS6.




    Brought it to work to get the tires mounted on the big RIMZ for the S5!




    Finally here's a shot of the "stance" with the 15mm spacers and KAW springs on Bilstein Sport shocks. Now I'm just looking for a nice, period correct wheel to set the car off. Nothing crazy stancey.

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    Looks very nice, I like it.

    Now a test fit the S5 wheels is a must

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    Looks very nice, I like it.

    Now a test fit the S5 wheels is a must

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    Looks good with the new springs on.
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    OK, update time. I've kind of been putting this off for a while.

    After Helen in May, my work got absolutely insane and I didn't have time to do anything for at least a month.

    Don't have a lot of pics because my phone had an accident, but I ended up flushing all the rusty gunk out of the cooling system and installing my new reservoir. It took something like 10 gallons of distilled water and 2 courses of radiator flush before it started to run remotely clear. The car had rusty tap water in it before so that was definitely overdue.




    Deleted the rear wiper with a 3D printed plug someone on the forums sold me. I really like how it cleans the look up. Was relatively simple to do but I destroyed the notoriously fragile hatch interior trim piece in the process, so I'm on the lookout for one of those.




    If you guys remember my sedan on the Anteras, I was able to actually swap my B6 wheels for them back with the current owner of the sedan. It ended up going to a good friend of mine, which is awesome because I get to still see it running around. Here are a couple shots, including my current Avant next to my old sedan and my buddy's green Avant. Something like 1% of UrS6 Avant production in one parking lot haha.




    Love the Anteras!!






    Refinished the Anteras in a more accurate silver color. Went to Helen over the weekend and recreated last May's photo with the Avant and the same wheels. GF still in picture in general but this time she was in her new S4. The Avant did awesome on the trip.








    Today I did a little tinkering -- played around with the VEMS ECU and got some datalogs so the one guy who knows how to tune these cars can revise the file. I think there's some more power in it, especially with the water/meth and the size of the turbo. It's pushing 20-21psi as of now and that's pretty conservative for this setup. Also adjusted the lambda targets so it's a little richer at idle and my AC compressor doesn't kill the car. Down the road planning to optimize the tune, drive the wheels off of it and daily it all winter!
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    The anteras look right at home on this thing

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