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Thread: Something you have never seen: an e36!

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    Hi everyone!
    I wasn't gonna have a buildthread about this car, as it is the daily driver, but it's Sunday, car meet plans got cancelled, I am here bored as hell, I love writing, so I said why not?
    Expect lots of words, some pics all in potato quality, bad english, and come with me on a 3-years-long journey, or love story we can say.

    BACKSTORY, because everyone loves backstories.

    I have always loved all things with an engine in them, but after some fiddling with offroad rigs (that I still love) I found myself working on mk1 VWs. It was 2011 when I bought my second car, but the first registered in my name (as the first, a Suzuki Jimny, I bought when I was 16 and you can't legally drive nor own a vehicle until 18 here ). It was, and still is, my mk1 Golf Cabriolet and it will probably be mylife-long project. Pic for reference:





    What does this have to do with an e36? Nothing at this point, but we're getting there.
    So, when I got the Golf I dailyed it for a while, but then wanted to work on it and since my sister destroyed my Suzuki after just 1 week of driving it, I needed a new daily. I then looked into my pockets very throughly, got together the crazy sum of 1200€, and proceeded to go buy the worst example of rust-free e30 you could find. It was a 1.6, ate coolant, terrible mpg, squeaky doors, squeaky hvac motor, but it drove me around for some time and being 27yro it paid no road tax and ridiculous insurance.



    Obviously being the hotboi I am it had to have illegal wheels and tyres on and I made that roofrack from scratch because I used it to go snowboarding with friends and there was no room inside for all the boards and sheit. It was a funny car but being riddled with problems I knew it had short life in her.

    That brings us to an e36. Keep in mind we are still in 2015.
    One day, driving by the local car dealer, I see this black e36 coupe. I fell in love with it and went to see it like 200 times, and one day the dealer offered to trade it for my POS e30 plus some cash. I was obviously crazy about it but being poor AF I needed some time to gather the money. And then shit happened.

    The newly elected government thought old cars did not need to be detaxed, and moved the age from 20 to 30yro. That meant both my e30 and the e36 would pay everything like a modern car, and at my young age I would have passed from paying ~300€/year for two cars, to ~3000/year, and the e36 would pay even more. There was nothing else to do than sell the e30 and not buy anything, if I wanted to keep the golf. It was a sad day. Sold the e30 and got around in my parent's car for a while, time got better and I bought a new Ranger since I needed a pickup, but that old e36 left an hole in my heart.

    And finally, you get to 2018, 3 years later. I see the dealer, and out of curiosity I ask him what had been of that old black bmw. "Oh it's still in my warehouse, it was too beautiful to let it go to the press". My eyes got bigger than my head! We went to see it, it was in the same spot it was 3 years ago, covered in dust! I asked if he would still sell it, he gave me a killer deal, and finally I was the proud owner of my dream!





    It is a '95 320i coupe with the M50, one owner 90000 original kms with full history and receipts, basically new except for a badly swirled paint and floppy fabric in every interior panel. Not a single rust spot, not a single dent. OEM front M bumper, leather steering wheel, electronic AC. The best car I've ever bought.

    And finally I can stop daily driving that frickin 2016 Ranger that I honestly **** for how boring it is to drive

    End of part one for simplicity, as this is getting pretty long I think it's better to split before the mods

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    Part Two: mods on a "budget"

    So now we have a cool old car and we can drive it. Or not. No we can't as it is high as a building, tyres are dry rotten, and we still are stancebois that need to roll around in slammed pieces of crap.

    My group of friends is named the "Dumbass Crew" for reasons.



    Bad news is, the aforementioned Ranger is proving to be a bitch to sell being so unused (19000kms), so the mods budget is not here in a bulk as I expected. Not to worry tho, time is not a concern.

    First thing first I did an oil and filter change and all that, you know how it goes. Than tried to recover the headliner with not so good results, but hey I have time to redo it.
    Then I bought the most expensive bunch of metal I have ever gotten:



    BC racing extralow coils, 18k-18k spring rates

    And something needed to be done for the thing I **** the most in 90s cars: amber lights.





    Obviously the ad made all these "smoke" lights look like black but when you get them they are never the same, and I am pretty disappointed but hey they are better than the amber sheit.

    I also got some big tyres



    In the meantime I knew I would need some toe adjustment in the rear so I modded my brackets stealing the idea from a nice guy on here who did it on his and explained how to



    But I was still waiting for my wheels to come. They arrived and I had an "install everything at once party" with a pair of friends, gave it a quick eyeballed alignment and finally it's out of the garage!





    Wheels are Extreme Offset in 9x18 et22 and 10x18 et30, wrapped in some delightful cheap nankangs, 215/35 and 225/35

    It's not perfect, but a starting point is something and we took it to the local monday meet









    Now, the first problem to solve is I like my beemers to squat down in the back. And as you can see, it is not squatting. Since the body was so tidy I did not want to cut the inner fender lips so if I lowered it more it just ate my tyres' sidewall.
    I like to build things when I can, and I came up with a solution.
    Since my camber adjustment on the lower arms were all maxed out, I built some for the upper arms.
    Some tabs (I'd have liked to have these machined but my machinist friend is ill, so hand tools ftw)



    Some SAAB eccentric bolts



    Assembling it



    Tacked the tabs into place with the trusty mig, cut the slot with a carbide bit in the stock arms, gave it a lick of paint and this is the first test with no spring





    No touchy! Fitment got a bit messed up as I'd like to have the rim's lip poking out of the fender but now I can put it back to the desired ride height:



    And I'm much more happy. I'll update with new pics when I wash it as it is now filthy since it's already too low to clear the garage entrance

    I had to work out in the porch



    Also, last but not least I am working on blacking out the "not so smoked" depo lights, I had half a can of Tamiya smoke and tried it on the side markers, much more happy, here is a before/during/after



    And this bring us to yesterday evening, so now it's just future work.

    I gathered an OEM rear M bumper and OEM "Luxpack" sideskirts and I'll bring them to the bodyshop to be painted. I'd like to have them remove the rear fenders' inner lips while they are there but I dunno if it is where the inner and outer sheetmetal meet so if they cut it they split, or not. We'll see, if I can get back to my "poke" in the rear I'll be happy but I don't want to ruin the quarterpanels.
    Aside from that I need to order a front lip and lower grille mesh, and I'll build a stainless axleback, I think to go with an universal Magnaflow 4x18" muffler hoping it will not be too loud.

    Anyways, thanks for watching the 387548957th thread about an e36 coupe on stanceworks, have some potatos for the looooooong post, and thanks to everyone I took inspiration and knowledge from to get to this point!

    Bye
    Fulvio
    Last edited by Fruttolo; 06-24-2018 at 04:34 AM.

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    sempre e solo ghei, apri pure su cleaned che altrimenti ti mando diggei arrapato

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    Quote Originally Posted by boiddopa View Post
    sempre e solo ghei, apri pure su cleaned che altrimenti ti mando diggei arrapato
    Prima o poi, tanto voi la vedrete una volta o l'altra

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    nice, black on black
    low'n'slow

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    Well done on those indicators, looks mint

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    Clean E36! I love those tail lights, keep up the good work


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    Thank you guys!

    Sadly, I am the hugest retard and I already managed to ruin the fenders:



    I had put on some rubber bumpstops to avoid busting the wheel into the fender and they worked, until yesterday when after an highway trip it started to rub as hell...could have limped home and limited the damage but I was late for an appointment and ran a hundred kms at over 180kmh, the result is above and I am so sad of having rubbed a hole into the inner sheetmetal I could cry of my stupidity. But well, live and learn and if you don't learn then fuck yourself.

    Today I came back from work and inspected everything to check what caused the rubbing issue and found my rubber bumpstop were all squished off the shock's shaft



    They clearly don't work as advertised. Well, I called my machinist and by luck he was home and had a chunk of PVC he kindly turned into two solid bumpstops for me. Being in a rush and not wanting to bother him too much I guesstimated the lenght and had them made too long so now I have ZERO compression travel and it feels like shit but at least I can stop hearing that rubbing.



    The good thing about yesterday tho is the trip was to a meet with a lot of good friends and despite my "problems" with the car we had a lot of fun, and took some crappy pics





    My friend and I have an almost identical car, same year, same colour, he likes oem+ while I go with crazier stuff and it was really funny seeing how different they are while being almost the same.

    Next on the list is:
    Fixing that goddamn fender I now genuinely ****, and possibly going on and removing the inner lips since damage is already done.
    Buying a set of hubs and redrilling them to 5x112
    Buy new wheels for next season, something less aggressive in the rear so I can dial some camber out and regain some high speed stability.

    I love having a dependable daily again, don't I?

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    Nice story for buy this car

    I love the style of your E36 right now, stanced, flush Wheel, what else.. lool

    Keep going
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    UPDATE MOTHAFUCKAS

    Bad news:
    2 weeks ago, while I was busy welding front coilovers on a friend's e21, some old fucktard in a yellow Agila decided it'd be cool to smash into my car that was parked on the side of the neighbourhood road, in a frickin straight line and with like 15cm protruding into the road itself. Smashed my rear quarter in from the tail light to the fender, luckily the wheel being so wide out "stopped" her or she would have gone forth. She said "she didn't notice the car was there". I often ask myself what does one have to do to have their licence took away if this isn't enough, but heh.

    Good news is I know an awesome bodyshop, they already had my Mtech bumper and sideskirts to paint them so at least they got to paint everything the same colour at once. While I was there I had the rear fenders "unrolled" like factory and the inner lips removed to gain every bit of room I could, came out amazing. If you didn't know it was modded it would look OEM from inside and out, so pretty satisfied.

    Here is a pic of the car looking broken on stockies at the bodyshop



    Today I spent the entire day fiddling with the fitment and height and got it back to where it should be, cleaned it and took for a spin on a sunny afternoon that obviously ended in some rain and had to turn in a damn crazy storm right after I took these pics...starting to think this black car is my curse and everytime I wash it it rains, so guess it gotta live dirty.

    Anyhow, enjoy it as a more complete car in some shitty iPhone pics







    Next on the list as far as exterior goes is front lip, M3 side strips and M3 front bumper grille, then I can call it finished on the outside.
    Also, I bought some new (to me) OEM wheels, will not be the final setup either but I always loved this style and had to have them, gonna have them restored and install them next year

    Daily chronicles /end for now

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    Cars looking good! Send me the link on those tail lights, I can never find them in smoked. Glad to see the trailing arm tab worked out for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by fackinsteve View Post
    Cars looking good! Send me the link on those tail lights, I can never find them in smoked. Glad to see the trailing arm tab worked out for you
    Thank you man, and thanks for telling me that trick, being able to zero my toe is saving me a lot of money on tyres LOL

    The lights are from this ebay shop

    https://www.ebay.it/itm/ALL-SMOKED-R...IAAOSwFnFV-zQX

    These are for a saloon but they also have them for coupes, they also fit pretty good even tho they are not even close to dark as in the ad's pictures

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    yo... didnt know you had an e36, this is nice!

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    Whoa! Cool build

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    Ma smettila di fare lo Stensbooooiiiii

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruttolo View Post
    UPDATE MOTHAFUCKAS

    Bad news:
    2 weeks ago, while I was busy welding front coilovers on a friend's e21, some old fucktard in a yellow Agila decided it'd be cool to smash into my car that was parked on the side of the neighbourhood road, in a frickin straight line and with like 15cm protruding into the road itself. Smashed my rear quarter in from the tail light to the fender, luckily the wheel being so wide out "stopped" her or she would have gone forth. She said "she didn't notice the car was there". I often ask myself what does one have to do to have their licence took away if this isn't enough, but heh.
    I feel a little bit guilty when you say that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroteknik View Post
    yo... didnt know you had an e36, this is nice!
    Thanks man, it's just a simple daily driver for now but I'm treating her better than I ever did with the cabby LOL

    @DawsonLiri don't worry man, at least we still had fun that day

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    WELCOME TO AN ABSOLUTELY NOT DEAD THREAD!

    I am waiting for new year's eve with nothing to do so guess I could update this with the latest happenings.
    We coult name this:

    PLANS ALWAYS CHANGE - a stanceboi's racecar dream

    So, last time I left you with some pics of the complete car, and it lasted a couple of months while I really enjoyed it. Winter came tho, and since this is the daily.......I put it away for winter and now drive around in my work van. Guess I am a retard but could not throw this car in salt and snow, I'm like that, will probably need a winter hooptie sooner or later.
    Meanwhile, I had gotten a nice set of 18" Style32s I wanted to machine down in the rear to bring in the offset and was waiting on my friend to have time to do it, when both of us got the track bug. Stance plans got screwed up.
    Actually one of my dreams is driving the Nürburgring and he proposed we go next summer, but he has his Abarth and I only had two slammed low'n'slow thingies...since the Cabby is far from a track car I decided it was time to make the bmw into a more "sporty" ride so that I can go mountain carving with him and our other friends. Power is the lowest ever, but that will have to stay for now, so I got around to solve the other issues.

    First thing, I **** the sloppy feeling BMW drivelines have. Flexdiscs and dual mass flywheels are terrible for driving pleasure, and old BMW shifters are so far from the wheel and have a ton of travel and play in them when you have a long knob like mine. Luckily IRP comes to the rescue with two of the best made products I've ever bought:





    Short shifter and alu/poly flexdisc are guaranteed to take some dampening action out of the car, and should be easy to install.
    SHOULD BE lol

    It's taking me weeks to do it while working on it only on sundays but I'm almost finished



    I had to remove a good bit of interior...





    But I was able to fit it without cutting all of the trim off, very happy about it. Also had to mod the only part of my interior that was already ruined by some holes the PO did, so no biggie.

    While I was at it, my glovebox was starting to separate so I fixed it with some PU sealant (works wonders)



    And having all the interior apart I threw the old Sony head unit back in the box and installed a JVC one that IMO looks waaay better, I like plain and simple designs on old cars





    The first time I took the interior apart I was in a pinch and did not notice, but the shop that installed the hideous alarm system I removed proceeded to lose 1/3 of the bolts, so they did not put any back in not easy to see holes. I had to look for suitable sized bolts to fix that, but I'll go junkyard hunting for OEM BMW replacements in the future because I'm anal like that. Also, I'm waiting for a non-armrest center console because I **** armrests so the interior is not buttoned up yet

    Lastly, having to drop the driveshaft to change the guibo means you have to remove pretty much everything around it, and that sparked another "while you are there" moment.



    Crusty backbox...



    And crusty midpipe...but there is a bit too much stuff on it amirite? This car always sounded like a vacuum cleaner, let's se if a little chop chop weld weld could make it sound a liiittle better.



    I just happened to have a piece of pipe the right size but no elbows, so made one with piecuts. First time doing them, I'm so happy I could try and it came out pretty good for a no fucks given job.
    Gave all the exhaust a scrub/sanded it and painted it high temperature semi-gloss black that's guaranteed to make everything look pimp from a distance and not flashy if any law enforcer decides to take a peep under the car.





    Did not paint the first section as it's so close to the headers it would flake off and look shit anyways but I'm thinking of going back and do it too just for the sake of OCD.

    Anyways, this bring us up to date. I'm waiting on exhaust gaskets as mine were so old they flaked off in my hands, and on a little something to cover up the gaping hole left by the shifter boot that's now impossible to fit. Also I may have found everything I need to consider the exterior finished, if the guy selling that doesn't cut me off.

    As for wheels. 18s are the right size on e36s in my opinion (yeah **** me now) but they are too big to fit with decent tyres without having to raise the coilovers, so I was thinking about buying some Rota D154s

    https://www.driftworks.com/rota-d154...x120-et30.html

    Not in blue obviously, but although I think reps are ok for track abuse I'm still a classic wheels lover and a stanceboi, and my street credibility would drop immensely if I went to a meet with fake Compomotives (yeah lol). Also I want a driveable car, but it will still be low, some stretch action will happen, and I want cool wheels.
    Soooooo...I found a deal on some OZ Futura faces to build in perfect specs, and out the window goes the "I'm not gonna spend 2k in wheels on a 2k car". Will show them when they get there as I don't like teasing.

    So that is all for now, maybe if you have suggestion on a "sporty" finish for the new wheels feel free to share it as I can't decide what to do, for now I think faces will be white and lips brushed but still not sure.

    Future plans, for a somewhat distant future because funds are not bottomless, include an engine swap (either M50B25 and turbo with a 300-350hp goal but expensive and illegal AF, or M54b30 NA hoping for 230-240hp), big brakes up front, and other little upgrades...and still keeping this my summer daily driver.

    Sorry for long post and no potato.
    Thanks for reading, and have the happiest new year!
    Last edited by Fruttolo; 12-31-2018 at 10:57 AM.

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    Oh I love that shifter, it looks fantastic.

    I feel your pain on the "while I'm in there" problem. Seems like every project starts with simple intentions, but always spirals into a million other little odd jobs. Just part of the hobby I suppose haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwwaaaa View Post
    Oh I love that shifter, it looks fantastic.

    I feel your pain on the "while I'm in there" problem. Seems like every project starts with simple intentions, but always spirals into a million other little odd jobs. Just part of the hobby I suppose haha.
    It's the fun part, if you can avoid thinking about money the shifter really is awesome, I sit in it shifting 1st to 5th and back making vroom vroom noises now and then while I wait for parts LOL

    On the positive side, read "parts coming in instead of wandering in some van around europe", I got my wheels...or the first part of them



    Obligatory mockup shot while I took the first measurements and realised I'll have to go crazy to fit "big" brakes in these



    And for fun, put them on the scale as they looked rather heavy...was guessing 5kg each but they're actually a bit less



    Bye to whoever still reads forums LOL

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    Forum reader: nice job on fitting the shifter, looks great. Also, good score on the centers. Now go wide and big
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    good stuff going on in here, you are doing some great marketing for IRP....

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    Thank you both guys

    Quote Originally Posted by Miroteknik View Post
    good stuff going on in here, you are doing some great marketing for IRP....
    I actually like mentioning businesses I am satisfied with, not sponsored at all obviously (sure wish I was LOL, their prices are pretty affordable but still set me back a good half of a paycheck ), just user feedback

    As for going wide and big...this time I'm trying to fit wheels to a car instead of building a car around wheels as I'm used to, so I guess the result will have a little less "wow factor"...but a little more functionality

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    Uh, Black E36 and Futura... where did I already see them?
    Well at least you don't buy a set of Rota... yet

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    Really enjoying this build, shifter is great, im wanting do something like this with my own E36, not that il ever really get the full benefit from it, but i too sit and make vroom vroom noises while shifting lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fruttolo View Post
    It's the fun part, if you can avoid thinking about money the shifter really is awesome, I sit in it shifting 1st to 5th and back making vroom vroom noises now and then while I wait for parts LOL
    Been there when I got my new shifter and solid mounts(Vroom vroom). Love the way this car is coming along. What are you ultimate goals for the car? Are you planning on tracking it?
    I just need something to go from point A to point B
    so i bought 3 bmws
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