W124 suspension - can't find what i need...

[projektzwo]

Hello there everyone, i'm looking for some coilovers or just really shorts springs + proper shocks, but for now - just nothing. Now i'm wondering how it's possible the fact that nobody makes coilovers for that old Benz. I can find only suspension kits (springs + shocks) but the lower springs for W124 are 40-50mm. So i want some suggestions, is there any option to take some coilovers from other model of the Benz series or from some other make? Please help i want some massive drop...:devillook

[DutchM3S50]

Its difficult to lower a W124.. its not coil over.. due to the double wishbone and loose schocker

I think its good to measure the dimensions of the coil..look from several other cars iff you can use springs. and measure the length of the schockabsorber. than go for a look what will fit..

I know KONI has several lowered schockabsorbers max 4cm shortened thats for BMW e30

In the worst case you can cut the schokabsorber pin and tap new wire on it..

its not easy like VW or BMW

Where are you from...

[projektzwo]

I'm from Bulgaria and that makes everything more difficult. After all i can just take some stiffer(shorter) shocks and maybe home made adjustable springs...

[DutchM3S50]

How are the roads in bulgaria... my girl is from Riga latvia. the roads are bad there..
But oke LOW IS A LIFESTYLE!!

Maybe you can take the springs -6cm and cut it... Eventually take the coil adjusters to put under the springs to make it adjustable.

[Mikael]

Cut the springs, thats the easiest.
No prob to get a 124 really low with cutted springs.
If you don't want to cut at all; W210 lowering springs fits, and gets it a bit lower than 124 lowering springs

This is a S124 with cutted W210 springs ( original 40/40mm)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs041.ash2/35394_447785601146_657956146_6523156_4986691_n.jpg

[projektzwo]

Now i'm with cutted avantgarde springs with two coils, and still can't get low enough, and if i want to cut more, i'll have to change the shocks. However, thanks about the W210 advice...

[*96tegls*]

i'm having the same problem with my w126

[projektzwo]

i'm having the same problem with my w126
Well that sucks pretty well...
I make decision - i'll take shorter shocks and maybe some springs or i'll try to cut mine more, because they're sportline and really stiff. For now - static drop.

[*96tegls*]

how many coils have you cut off so far ?

i have a 300 SDL and the diesels are super heavy !

[projektzwo]

how many coils have you cut off so far ?

i have a 300 SDL and the diesels are super heavy !
for now - 2 coils, i think next step will be 1/2 coil or maybe 1 coil, but it depends on that how short will be the shocks, because now with 2 coils cut + sportline shocks, the rear springs can't stay static when the car is lifted if you can understand what i mean...:rofl

[DrFraserCrane]

not directly on point, but I did cut springs on my w123 240d

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x249/frd206/benz%20build/edd5c1c7.jpg

not really a whole lot of options for the benz spring setup. my best advice would be find some shorter shocks to compensate for the drop.

but other than that, not much help at all I am afraid

[isved]

Try W201 1.8, 2.0, 2.3, or 2.3-16 lowering springs. Also, I recommend Bilstein Sports to compensate for the drop. You'll be very surprised at how good the car rides.

[SSS_Imperial]

Isved that cool! That good contribution to your tip, I am precisely the same situation I've always wanted a W124, but I was discouraged by the fact that there are no options to give ground.

[projektzwo]

well i think that actually we have a solution, thanks to everyone and any other ideas/suggestions are welcome...

[*96tegls*]

Try W201 1.8, 2.0, 2.3, or 2.3-16 lowering springs. Also, I recommend Bilstein Sports to compensate for the drop. You'll be very surprised at how good the car rides.

They don't make a Sport or HD shock for w126 diesels :(

[projektzwo]

They don't make a Sport or HD shock for w126 diesels :(
well, in your case you have only one option - custom made struts - which means -> cut the stem -> maybe refilling -> make new carving on the cutted stem -> mount the new shocks -> :alright

[freshjive80]

heres my w124 cut 3 coils

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/freshjive80/car/260e_bbs-rear.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/freshjive80/car/260e_bbs-side.jpg

[projektzwo]

heres my w124 cut 3 coils

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/freshjive80/car/260e_bbs-rear.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/freshjive80/car/260e_bbs-side.jpg
and still with the OEM shocks?

[freshjive80]

the oem shocks gave out on me once i cut the coils. i currently now have bilstein shocks

[projektzwo]

the oem shocks gave out on me once i cut the coils. i currently now have bilstein shocks
i mean are your bilsteins with the oem height, or they're shorter?

also i think i found what i'm looking for, not so expensive, and as i can see those shocks are for extreme (50+) :rofl drop...

here they are -> front - http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/category_results.mhtml?category=spaxadjustableshoc ksfrontshort&car=mercedes_124&manufacturer=spax&sub_category=1

rear - http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/category_results.mhtml?category=spaxadjustableshoc ksrear&car=mercedes_124&manufacturer=spax&sub_category=1

so... any comments for this manufacturer SPAX?

also i want to know what will be better for massive drop, shocks for 6-cylinders or for 4-cylinders, i'm running with 4-cylinder engine, but i think that will be better to get the 6-cylinders one? Actually what's the difference?

[wagonist]

H&R makes both Sport springs as well as Cup Kit for the W124 chasis. Cup kit comes with sport springs and significantly shortened shocks.

Basic search brother..

[projektzwo]

H&R makes both Sport springs as well as Cup Kit for the W124 chasis. Cup kit comes with sport springs and significantly shortened shocks.

Basic search brother..
yeah sure, but did you check out the price... heh... my c124 is cheaper...there is no point...

[conski]

I have a pair of front end bilsteins from a w126, maybe you could get em shortened? Not sure if it would work though.

[CrazyCripple]

afaik w126 suspention is different from w210/w124

[conski]

afaik w126 suspention is different from w210/w124

It was just a suggestion, but thank you for clarifying

[HWY HNTR]

i mean are your bilsteins with the oem height, or they're shorter?

also i think i found what i'm looking for, not so expensive, and as i can see those shocks are for extreme (50+) :rofl drop...

here they are -> front - http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/category_results.mhtml?category=spaxadjustableshoc ksfrontshort&car=mercedes_124&manufacturer=spax&sub_category=1

rear - http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/category_results.mhtml?category=spaxadjustableshoc ksrear&car=mercedes_124&manufacturer=spax&sub_category=1

so... any comments for this manufacturer SPAX?

also i want to know what will be better for massive drop, shocks for 6-cylinders or for 4-cylinders, i'm running with 4-cylinder engine, but i think that will be better to get the 6-cylinders one? Actually what's the difference?
these seem interesting, how do these work? Like you cut your springs on how low you want the car, then put these in and lower them (the shocks?) then the car will handle tight because of the shocks? Someone clarify, cause I need new shocks as well :rofl

[HWY HNTR]

To bump this thread, I asked some people about the company SPAX, if they're a refutable company, and they said yes, apparently the air cooled guys like their products a lot and stand by them.

[projektzwo]

that's very good, really thanks about the info...i have somethig interesting too... after contact with the support, they said that with this shortened shock you can go 80mm lower, which i think will be pretty enough with cutted springs. :alright

[NELSON09]

Nice, cut em. I'm on cut oem coils. 1 3/4 front and 2 1/4 rear. Time for bilstein ss shocks. 124s have spring pads I assume, if they do and you haven't yet, you could swap them out for #1 pads all the way around for some more low.

[projektzwo]

Nice, cut em. I'm on cut oem coils. 1 3/4 front and 2 1/4 rear. Time for bilstein ss shocks. 124s have spring pads I assume, if they do and you haven't yet, you could swap them out for #1 pads all the way around for some more low.
yep the 124s have spring pads, but mine is without... any :D

now i'm with 2 coils cutted front and rear and the stock sportline shocks, so probably will be enough when i put the spax shocks, otherwise i'll cut the springs a little bit more... :alright

after all guys i thing that if e talk about going super low with your w124 then this is one of the best options for this amount, and there is only one way to go low for less money - custom made struts, i'll checkout one place here in my town where they said that there is no problem to cut my struts, but i'm not sure how good will they do the job...

[hill9]

Since Bulgaria has poor roads, don’t rely on custom made shocks by cutting your spring. Since you make your decision choose from these options, try bilsteins or H&R. Remember that they make shocks for stock cars. So try those and ask someone expert in these shocks lively other than any passive advices.

[projektzwo]

Since Bulgaria has poor roads, don’t rely on custom made shocks by cutting your spring. Since you make your decision choose from these options, try bilsteins or H&R. Remember that they make shocks for stock cars. So try those and ask someone expert in these shocks lively other than any passive advices.
yeah.. poor roads, but deff will go lower, don't give a fawk for the roads at all... also i will not pay such a high amount for shocks like Bilstein, Koni & etc., just because i gotta work almost a year for them...

And i'm out from the idea to buy SPAX or any different make of shocks (for now), because i have found what i'm looking for, even in my town. I'm talking about expert in the hidraulics, so he guarantees that he can make whatever i want from one stock shock - softer, harder, shorter, longer - anything! So this will be very cheap - about 30euro per shock and i'll give him a chance, so i'll post what's done when i'm ready.

Thanks everybody!