Australian Stanced Mag

[BBLGUM]

Hi Guys and Girls...

Just wondering if i could get some feedback on a possible stanced mag...or at least a few one off dedicated issues...

Would you pick it up and have a look or possibly even buy it?

We all know stance is becoming a bigger and better part of the scene here, I dont think it is nearly as well catered for in mags as it should be...

Keen to hear what you think

[mr zed x]

in.

but wont take off, to many ricers with 22x6 +77 wheels around sadly.

[Jedidiah]

Has to start somewhere ... where there is a will, there is a way... let us know when the first issue is published ;)

[BBLGUM]

Its not so much a stanced devoted magazine, but we do release special issue magazines that are dedicated to different parts on the scene, and if they go well, you will find more and more of these styled cars gracing the pages of monthly magazines...

This is what we are looking to do with a the stanced scene

Are there any Australia built cars that you think represent stanced in the best way...maybe something you would like to read about?

[Oxer]

There are only a handfull of cars that are built for the purpose of low ride height and low offset wheels. The scene isn't big enough to cated for a full magazine... That and Alot of the publications that are in australia are full of mis-information. Cars are built then sold, and you see them in a magazine down the track with the credit for the build going completely to someone else.

Not trying to pay out on your publications, But its like your Minitruck publications... or even the aussie brutes.. There have been a couple of trucks that I have helped build, One I even painted, and the credit went to some panel shop that probably wouldnt be able to name 3 of the 7 layers in the paint work.

As I said, Australia isnt ready for a stance magazine. Im all for pushing the scene forward, but you might fill one mag, and sell 30 copies...

What cars would you put in there anyway? DCUPS? and a couple that have graced the pages of autosalon? People want fresh, creative stuff, not features that have been done to death.

Just my thoughts though.. If you decide to go ahead with it, Ill be the first to buy a copy. But Im easily dissapointed when it comes to magazines. :D

[Carra_909]

yeah ill be up for a copy of the mag, but sadly i think oxer is right the scene isnt big enough to get a full edition of fresh cars that will draw more to this trend.

i have seen a civic on this forum that is being build that i haven't heard much of these days that would go good in it. :eyebrows any updates on it yet oxer or u still figuring your funds out

[trism]

I think in order to sell it, itd need to be marketed only on car forums, and only in a limited run to start off with. And probably only one a year. Call it something like STANCED-The Australian Annual.

[Oxer]

SHHHH!! now people are gonna dig it up! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

lol.. nothing has changed, it just collects dust.

[kriss]

I rekn a one off issue would be tops, only 2 Aussie cars I can think off though is TJ's s13 from qld and DCUPS FD lol

[Oxer]

There are others, dont get me wrong, but majority of people dont want to pick up a mag with beated drift pigs covering the pages because they are generally the most epic of fitment. You could throw a mag together with "new" features of cars that arent that well known, but What you gonna do next year when its time to bring out another one? Id say let the scene grow first, and kriss, DCUPS sold off to a new owner, I dont know where its gone now lol... I hope its in the same condition?

[BBLGUM]

All very valid points.

Firstly when it comes to cars being credited to people, it is something that is filled in by the owner. This is where the information collected is taken as truth. You cant offer someone a magazine feature and not thank who they wish to be thanked. If that information is incorrect it would be something that needed to be brought up with the owner, rather than the publications teams.

When it comes to special one off magazines like these, which is where magazines such a Bagged,Choppers and the like began, you would be surprised how many thousands sell with no promotion. Its a fantastic way to test the waters and see what sort of feedback these styled cars recieve on their own. Those two magazines for example have gone on to a regular print schedule, due to sufficient sales and a supportive scene.

Whilst the STANCED scene in many of your eyes may not be a big enough scene there is no reason why we cannot start looking at something like this. As many of you will understand, it doesnt happen over night and it does require alot of research and understanding of what people involved in the scene want to read about.

Who knows, you may start seeing a bigger influence from the stanced scene appearing in other titles instead of one on its own.

Thanks for the input guys.

[anth]

DCUPS RX7 is now being tracked by the new owner, had waaay too many baller parts to just sit around and hardpark

[180roman]

i recon a one off issue would work

and don't be modest kriss i'm sure your car would make it in the stanced magazine

[kriss]

nah rear is sunken like shit

to have a magazine dedicated to fitment/stance you'd need rim/tyre on guard and rails on the ground, not too many cars in aus that would genuinly cut it

[Oxer]

All very valid points.

Firstly when it comes to cars being credited to people, it is something that is filled in by the owner. This is where the information collected is taken as truth. You cant offer someone a magazine feature and not thank who they wish to be thanked. If that information is incorrect it would be something that needed to be brought up with the owner, rather than the publications teams.

When it comes to special one off magazines like these, which is where magazines such a Bagged,Choppers and the like began, you would be surprised how many thousands sell with no promotion. Its a fantastic way to test the waters and see what sort of feedback these styled cars recieve on their own. Those two magazines for example have gone on to a regular print schedule, due to sufficient sales and a supportive scene.

Whilst the STANCED scene in many of your eyes may not be a big enough scene there is no reason why we cannot start looking at something like this. As many of you will understand, it doesnt happen over night and it does require alot of research and understanding of what people involved in the scene want to read about.

Who knows, you may start seeing a bigger influence from the stanced scene appearing in other titles instead of one on its own.

Thanks for the input guys.


I wasnt looking to place blame or recieve credit, sorry if that came across wrong. The reason Bagged and Choppers sells so easily is because those scenes are allready big. Ive been involved in the minitruck scene since early 05, and was excited to see the first issue of bagged, but after a quick flick trough the pages I realised it was full of old features, with some of those trucks now sold off and in pieces..

The "Stance" movement isn't quite there yet in terms of "followers" and not enough people know what it is, or how to achieve it. It would be awesome to create a one off issue to begin with, almost as an introduction to stance, but if there are any adverts from companies like the tyre factory, then I wont buy it. Dont mean to sound rude, But one of the biggest factors in this scene is wheels, and a $2k set of 20"cromies just doesn't cut it.

I look forward to seeing some crazy fitment in your upcoming publications.. But the only local mag I was buying is Autosalon..

If you can take an approach similat to that, then you will have a cult following.

[Oxer]

nah rear is sunken like shit

to have a magazine dedicated to fitment/stance you'd need rim/tyre on guard and rails on the ground, not too many cars in aus that would genuinly cut it

yours would :cool just posy up the rear camber and you're set :eyebrows

[anth]

stance in Aus is sort of like a by-product of other scenes at the moment. You have guys with stanced cars in the jdm scene, euro, drift, vip, etc etc, but it's not quite big enough to warrant it's own direct following just yet.

That being said, nothing except exposure will help it grow, so something like this is a great idea. By showing only a selection of cars with the right fitment, you don't need to mention or worry about the size (or lack thereof) of the scene, you just show the good stuff that people will love.

Remember guys, there's probably a bunch of 15/16 year old kids out there who will pick up the magazine, love what they see, and then endeavor to build their own stanced car. Remember when you were younger, how much magazines influenced you? That's how it all starts, and in a few years they'll be the ones coming out with their own cars.

sorry if any of this has been mentioned, couldn't be assed reading all the posts :stickoutt

[BBLGUM]

^^^ Anth you are so on the money there!!

Also, the first issue of BAGGED was a tear sheet; which is where we put together a magazine by taking minitrucks that were featured in other magazines over a decent period of time and putting them all together in one place.

It was also put together on our lounge room floor, because my other half identified the possible market for the dedicated scene and didnt want to miss the oppourtunity.

Bagged was recieved so well, regardless of the content, and after flicking through Bagged 3 yesterday afternoon, which is all new content it is looking to improve every issue!

[Oxer]

Well if you need any features shot, be sure to let me know.. ;)

[mr zed x]

i'd love a copy.

but the only thing letting this down is the people that have wack ideas on stance.
it annoys me really.. wheels out the guards with -6 camber, to me isnt hella flush.

its mexican and not legal, although has a mad stance. a car i.e - kriss's isnt out the guards yet still has a mad stance.

however people are going to see that and question why kriss's car is in. which ruins it.
stanced should mean, stance. killer ride height and all round mean looking. not how wide the wheels are imho. that said, i dont want to see bog stock commodores laying rails because the springs were removed on cepters.

[kriss]

MEXICAN = GAY

fitment should mean wheels that fit, but if its gna be a stanced magazine it has to be about overall package not just wheels

[Doctor]

Id be keen to see one launched and see it become a success. It doesnt need to be monthly to start with, 3 or 4 issues a year, but filled with genuine content and not page fillers.

Always keen to shoot something in SA as well

[private_numero]

in.

but wont take off, to many ricers with 22x6 +77 wheels around sadly.

:rofl

[MeRlz]

wish we had something like this!!

[brybry]

Paper media is dieing. E-Zine would be the way to go, much more cost effective, easier to get the word out and advertise online, and you don't have any massive overheads to recover by relying on people paying for it! Do it for free and if people like it then you can approach companies to advertise in it.

I reckon a quarterly issue would be doable, and would be a great way to follow peoples build progress and local events too.

I'd be down to help with writeups or editing/graphics stuffs