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JSanders
07-24-2009, 11:13 AM
I'm on Tein SS coil overs. I'm all the way down in the front and am still about 2.75 inches off the ground. Is the only way to go lower buying shorter springs? Im trying to at least get into the 2" or lower club.

I want it lower... I wish I had bought coil overs with a helper spring lol

SeanDub
07-24-2009, 11:19 AM
Take off the adjuster and buy camber plates if you havent already.

J.Owen
07-24-2009, 11:33 AM
if the bottom of the shock/ coil is maxxed out, look at the top. You might be able to shorten or raise the the top mount.

JSanders
07-24-2009, 11:55 AM
Take off the adjuster and buy camber plates if you havent already.

Is it safe to ride on just one of the collars? If I take both off there is nothing for the spring to sit on.

Camber plates are on the to do list.

if the bottom of the shock/ coil is maxxed out, look at the top. You might be able to shorten or raise the the top mount.

I'll have to check into that.

1985zcar
07-25-2009, 12:50 AM
Can someone explain to me how the camber plates make the car lower? (If they do)...assuming we're talking E36 M3 here...

My friend (Formula E) needs to be lower too :)

Formula E
07-25-2009, 12:56 AM
^ +1.

Looks like he's running the same setup as me but im lower then 2.75... I still need to take off the bottom collar at some point

schroedin
07-25-2009, 01:20 AM
Can someone explain to me how the camber plates make the car lower? (If they do)...assuming we're talking E36 M3 here...

My friend (Formula E) needs to be lower too :)

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought camber plates didn't actually make the car lower, but having negative camber helps clear the wheel/tire into the fender and not rub?

1985zcar
07-25-2009, 01:30 AM
Yeah I understand that concept fine...lol

it just seems like whenever people talk of going lower, conversation of camber plates come up...makes it seem as though they may create a height difference or something? *shrug*

schroedin
07-25-2009, 05:08 PM
Yeah I understand that concept fine...lol

it just seems like whenever people talk of going lower, conversation of camber plates come up...makes it seem as though they may create a height difference or something? *shrug*
True. I dunno I have no exerience with these things :rofl

JSanders
07-25-2009, 05:51 PM
I was reading or GC or Vorshalg's website and the said they don't lower or raise the car at all, it is the same height as the factory top hat.

mojocoggo
07-25-2009, 06:03 PM
Is the only way to go lower buying shorter springs?

Sorry, but it is. You can keep ghettoslamming your coilovers by throwing parts of them away, but in the end your springs aren't stiff enough to keep your car driveable at that low of a ride height. If you're at the lowest setting on your coils and want to go lower you need stiffer, shorter springs.

Normal people use camber plates to adjust camber to make for better handling, but they're also used to bring the upper edge of the tire inward, allowing you to go lower without rubbing, and ball harder.

JSanders
07-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Damn. I was hoping it wasnt going to involve more money.


I should have know better.

hootie
07-25-2009, 06:27 PM
I know for E30's the stock camber plate is very thick, but after market camber plates (i.e., GC and Vorschlag) have a smaller stack height, which lower the car the difference between the stock camber plate and the new one.

Byron
07-25-2009, 11:09 PM
^ what he said.

e30 and e36 front strut mounts are very thick. High quality camber plates like GC and Vorschlag are much shorter overall, allowing the upper spring perch to move upwards and lower the car. They also provide more shock travel at the same time.

dinanm3atl
07-25-2009, 11:55 PM
Sorry, but it is. You can keep ghettoslamming your coilovers by throwing parts of them away, but in the end your springs aren't stiff enough to keep your car driveable at that low of a ride height. If you're at the lowest setting on your coils and want to go lower you need stiffer, shorter springs.

Normal people use camber plates to adjust camber to make for better handling, but they're also used to bring the upper edge of the tire inward, allowing you to go lower without rubbing, and ball harder.

Agreed.

Stiffer and shorter spring is what you will need to do this properly.

JSanders
07-27-2009, 09:48 PM
I'll try camber plates first.

I would rather not swap my springs unless I have to, I really enjoy the ride I have now.

Skar
08-10-2009, 06:02 PM
So your saying that the camber plates is thinner and make teh suspension goes higher?

implayaz9
08-10-2009, 06:48 PM
I have tein ss on my accord and had the same problem. So i decided to order shorter springs and now it can lay on the floor with ease. But now my passenger side shock is blown so I am not sure if the shorter springs cause the shock to go out. I am goin to send it to tein to fix it once I get funs.. btw springs are around 200 for 4.. this is when I ordered 3 years ago..

rubadub
08-10-2009, 11:28 PM
I'm at the same place you are, and it sucks. I'd buy shorter and stiffer springs myself but I got cheap coils and I'd only spend that kinda cash on adjustable ones.

Fortunately for me I left a little spacer that's 1/2" thick in the assembly so as soon as I do the necessary mods (rolled fender and another spacer) it's drop heaven.

iirc, you can get custom springs for pretty cheap. Think Brian told me GC sells em for $75 each, could be wrong though and if so blame him.

AirecK
08-11-2009, 01:38 AM
take a ring off, its all good if u take a ring off and bring that single ring all the way down til it cant turn ne more. or remove a bump stop that could help ya also

vdubkid
08-11-2009, 10:01 AM
Could someone explain to me, as if I didn't know anything about how to go about it :shifty how one would get as low as possible on DDM coilovers? Cheers

Digitalwave
08-12-2009, 03:04 PM
The universal solution:

buy shorter springs

BreakMyWallet
08-16-2009, 02:44 AM
yea, buy shorter springs. theyre pretty cheap. ground control sells replacement for 60 bucks.

just make sure u buy them shorter and stiffer

low_offset
08-22-2009, 06:41 PM
just take out the helper of the coilover :eyebrows i get rid of mine and the ride is smooth like before :)