S54GASM: My e36 Build

[M.Burroughs]

If you don't know the past, y'ain't worthy!

Current status:
http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/WheelsNTires/BBW/wholeroom.jpg

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/_DSC8126%20copy.jpg

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/underdash.jpg

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/stackprep.jpg

More coming very soon. :)

[southpaw]

zomgggg. sofa king siick

[E36HB]

c'mon Mike lets get this thing going!!!!

[SeanDub]

zomgggg. sofa king siick

You have beat the "sofa king" thing completely to death.

[xigetmoneyx]

I remember this from when I first joined BF.C haha.
FINISH IT!

It's Nevergivein by the way :]

[TheNeek]

I heart swaps. This one is a doosy.

[driggers.a]

Dirty.

[Feelinit18]

Finish

[TheStig]

I'll take one of these when you're done. Thanks :)

[bjh102]

hurry up and finish it. it looks sweet tho!

[Ficarra]

Disgusting. <3

[Exami]

Happy to see REAL S-motor in E36.. when looking E36 M3 images from us the S-motor looks so weird..

Difference:
US Engine:
http://www.bmwmregistry.com/faq/S50_US.jpg

EU Engine:
http://www.bmwmregistry.com/faq/S50_B32_Engine.jpg

[TheStig]

As nice as that is, that's not what he is putting in. He is actually putting the S54 engine and tranny from the E46 M3.

[Exami]

As nice as that is, that's not what he is putting in. He is actually putting the S54 engine and tranny from the E46 M3.

yea i can see that clearly.. but E36 has in US that S50 on stock that looks just like M50.. im happy that changing real S looking engine and waiting to hear that S54 starts..

[frink84]

very nice. ITBs ftw!

[TheStig]

yea i can see that clearly.. but E36 has in US that S50 on stock that looks just like M50.. im happy that changing real S looking engine and waiting to hear that S54 starts..

Ohhh ok, haha. I wasn't sure what yu were saying. Yeah its a nice chabge tho.

[Exami]

Ohhh ok, haha. I wasn't sure what yu were saying. Yeah its a nice chabge tho.

hehe :D well sorry my english isin't perfect or even near it and i can't make clear of my self all the time :rofl

[SeanDub]

This poor car keeps takin the back seat to your other projects :(

[M.Burroughs]

Don't even give me that. That's not the truth.

[FluidMotorUnion]

Car is going to be sick, I think this means you need to put an S62 in the 6.

[SeanDub]

^^ that

[M.Burroughs]

Car is going to be sick, I think this means you need to put an S62 in the 6.

Just waiting on money to come in from some clients and I've got a small list of crap to order, then my stuff is headed your way.



S62 in the 6 eh?


:D

[FluidMotorUnion]

Just waiting on money to come in from some clients and I've got a small list of crap to order, then my stuff is headed your way.



S62 in the 6 eh?


:D

Sick, and definitely an S62 in the 6.

[m633csi]

Lol mike s62 in a six been done before but its sick as hell. Car looks great btw. great that youre actually working on it now...

[schroedin]

Lol mike s62 in a six been done before but its sick as hell. Car looks great btw. great that youre actually working on it now...

He better be :shifty

[SeanDub]

He's a busy guy, too many damn projects goin on.

[M.Burroughs]

Lol mike s62 in a six been done before but its sick as hell. Car looks great btw. great that youre actually working on it now...

He better be :shifty

I have been working on it. There's a lot more to it than you guys think. :)

[schroedin]

I have been working on it. There's a lot more to it than you guys think. :)

I know i know, just giving you a hard time. I bet you're doing it better than most of us could :D

[ProjektONE]

That is ill! Clean ride! Got anymore pics?

[Travis]

I remember when i first joined bfc you were just getting started on this and you thought it would be completed by the end of the summer, like 4 months or something. If only you knew :rofl Im eagerly awaiting the finish of this masterpiece, keep it up Mike!

[M.Burroughs]

Yeah, I thought it'd be like 2 months. :rofl

[punkhop83]

i dont know SHIT about BMW but its looks dope as fuk!

[ProjektONE]

Id love to do this swap on my 4dr E46! I think one M is enough for this family.

[PraiseTheLowered09]

this is the complete opposite of wee todd did, this is completely sofa king

[nyy42]

Mike, I could still post on bf.c when this build started...

[adonis]

I might be doing this end of the year, just need to get funds together :) S54 turbo?!

[Flavourless]

Can't wait to see this complete, I want to have sexy time with your car ;)

[schroedin]

Mike, I could still post on bf.c when this build started...

Permabanned?

[BFalconer]

Wow, i didnt know you still had this project Mike.
I've seen that garage pic everywhere and assumed that it was an old car, that was your last pic taken of it and were whoring it <3
I shoulda known your cars dont die that easily :rolleyes...

[Chris@MemoryFab]

True Thug

[Mteknic330ci]

:drool: no joke so amaz

[M.Burroughs]

Wow, i didnt know you still had this project Mike.
I've seen that garage pic everywhere and assumed that it was an old car, that was your last pic taken of it and were whoring it <3
I shoulda known your cars dont die that easily :rolleyes...

Did a little cleanup in your post and the one above, hope you don't mind. :)

Thanks for the compliments. My e36 would be the LAST car I'd ever sell. It's just been a long and difficult project. Soon though, she'll be back on the streets, making little kids cry.

[BingoFuel]

You best get some high quality audio of this beast when it awakens dude... I need to feel like I'm there. Are those work of art headers you bought a while ago on the car?

[M.Burroughs]

indeed they are.

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/headersinstalled.jpg

[BingoFuel]

:eyebrows

Now you need a carbon airbox.

[M.Burroughs]

I've got better plans. :)

[Exorcist]

I have a funny feeling that it has been worth the wait ;)

[Flavourless]

Mike btw I love your avitar! Ratatat ftw one of my fav songs and have gotten many people hooked on it is Wildcat!

[nyy42]

This car will never run again.

-Mark my words

[schroedin]

This car will never run again.

-Mark my words

Halt with thine naysaying!

[ProjektONE]

I <3 ******!!

[e30pwr]

me likes. alot

[EThirtySicks]

Still waiting anxiously for this car to run <3

[ProjektONE]

Still waiting anxiously for this car to run <3

x2

[M.Burroughs]

Soon, my friends.

[///Montizzle]

When you are done, we will make sechs. Ok?

[schroedin]

When you are done, we will make sechs. Ok?
We can has threesome, yes?









Waitwhatwhosaidthat

[Burn535i]

Looking forward to this

[Reichy]

Sik as car man. Will be sic when done. loving the aussie road sign in ur garage. there one of those signs rite by my house.

[M.Burroughs]

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20General/fresh1.jpg

Car's on the ground. Suspension needs to settle a little- its never been down before :D

Also, I ordered parts today.

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/partsprice1.png

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/partsprice2.png

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/partsprice3.png

And more. :devillook

[schroedin]

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/partsprice1.png

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/partsprice2.png

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/partsprice3.png

And more. :devillook

http://www.entco.com/images/Entertainers/Mystery%20LOGO.jpg

[M.Burroughs]

Not anymore! :D

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/newparts.jpg

[SeanDub]

:)

[schroedin]

:D




What else needs to be done?

[Burn535i]

This thread is so much better than that 65 page crap on the BFC

[B Rod]

The above parts picture makes me happy.

[implayaz9]

sick..

[///Montizzle]

Zomg

[Stolzy]

k now get it done instead of doing a photoshoot of your parts haha. jk

but seriously. i cant wait to see this thing movin

[ProjektONE]

What size AN fittings are you using? I thought the OEM unit on the sender didnt match the AN? If you figured out the secret please let me know as the stock oil cooler on the
S54 doesnt hold well to Florida weather.

[Zack01GC]

I think this means you need to put an S62 in the 6.

I've been dreaming of doing this to mine.

If I had the financial means/time/mechanical ability it would have already been done.

Glad to finally see a picture of this car outside of your garage, looks sick dude.

[Ficarra]

:alright

[schroedin]

:alright

[M.Burroughs]

What size AN fittings are you using? I thought the OEM unit on the sender didnt match the AN? If you figured out the secret please let me know as the stock oil cooler on the
S54 doesnt hold well to Florida weather.

10 AN. I converted the outlets on the motor to AN. :)

[ProjektONE]

10 AN. I converted the outlets on the motor to AN. :)

How difficult of a job was this? I need to do this!!

[JSanders]

Your garage looks fcking awesome.

That is all.

[OSSHWA]

Your garage looks fcking awesome.

That is all.

Agreed. A whole lot better than......oh wait.....I don't have a garage. Or even a driveway for that matter :rofl

[JSanders]

Agreed. A whole lot better than......oh wait.....I don't have a garage. Or even a driveway for that matter :rofl

Haha + 1 on no driveway! I have a shop, but I cant get my car in it without raising it a few inches :D

[hover]

I just want to see this done, so that we can get it, the Golf, and Paul's 2.5RSti together for a shoot. :eyebrows

3 cars with motors that weren't available, and all sorts of fancy dancy electronics and ashhattery and cursing on why they haven't run yet. 2 down, only the E36 is left. :stickoutt

[M.Burroughs]

Let's play "Find out what Mike just ordered".

17112283344
17111742231
17112229059
13531404089
13531736234
13537830368
07119963129
26112283795
26127536563
17201719414
17111178412
61311378073
17111719384
32411093596
35411159803
35411119016
07129934916
35411152331
35411100674
35411158855

[Zic]

Part 17112283344 (EXPANSION TANK)
Part 17111742231 (Radiator cap)
Part 17112229059 (Grommet)
Part 13531404089 (PRESSURE REGULATOR)
Part 13531736234 (Lock Ring)
Part 13537830368 (Housing, pressure regulator)
Part 07119963129 (Gasket ring)
Part 26112283795 (Hex bolt)
Part 26127536563 (SELF-LOCKING HEX NUT)
Part 17201719414 (Rubber Mounting)
Part 17111178412 (RUBBER BUFFER)
Part 61311378073 (DOUBLE TEMPERATURE SWITCH)
Part 17111719384 (Drain plug radiator)
Part 32411093596 (Gasket ring)
Part 35411159803 (RETAINER SPRING)
Part 35411119016 (Bush bearing)
Part 07129934916 (Circlip)
Part 35411152331 (Rubber grommet)
Part 35411100674 (Bush bearing)
Part 35411158855 (ACCELERATOR PEDAL ASSY)

Did i win the game?
I **** being sick, and awake at 5o'clock in the morning.

*edit, LOVE this project by the way, nice to see you are still working on it, and its not just collecting dust.

[MikeG]

damn you beat me....are you really in the faroe islands?

[Zic]

Yeah, im in the Faroe islands. Why?
50000people in total here.

[Schieldrop]

I approve of this project.

[M.Burroughs]

This is the ultimate weight loss program.



For your wallet.

[TheNeek]

This is the ultimate weight loss program.



For your wallet.

Those guys at BMA will gladly help you there. They are like your personal trainer for your wallet. Good deals there, but we just always buy in quantity. Yves treat you right?

[M.Burroughs]

As always.

[Ficarra]

Suite sauce.

[MikeG]

Yeah, im in the Faroe islands. Why?
50000people in total here.

i hear its nice there...some sweet driving roads

[TheStig]

Need MOREgasm!!!

[Bimmerteck]

Your garage looks fcking awesome.

That is all.

Agreed. A whole lot better than......oh wait.....I don't have a garage. Or even a driveway for that matter :rofl

Haha + 1 on no driveway! I have a shop, but I cant get my car in it without raising it a few inches :D

Thanks for all the compliments on my garage! Once I button up Mike's swap it has some improvements waiting as well.


I have a gauge designed for mike's swap, it bounces back and forth between Empty(wallets) and Full(schedules) rarely stopping in the middle for some work.:stickoutt


Erik

[hi its me alec]

http://blankmediagroup.com/Pictures/Mike/E36-%20Motor%20Swap/newparts.jpg

What's the block off plate for? Oil level sensor?

[Bimmerteck]

It's a block off plate for the air pump valve location on the head since we won't be needing to pass emissions and what not. :alright


Erik

[Steinke]

So so so excited to see this finished! I remember when you first popped up on BF.c with your stock car. It has come so far............cant wait to see it running again!

[M.Burroughs]

Just a quick pic.

http://www.stanceworks.com/Pictures/E36/front.jpg

[Bimmerteck]

look at hw messy my poor garage has gotten. :(













JK your car is coming along nicely.:D

[e30bmw]

Are those angel eyes? I didn't take you as the angel eyes in an E36 kind of guy.

Can't wait until this thing is done.

[Geoff.T]

Good to see progress is being made. Keep it up guys.

[saturnstance]

the front looks so mean. looks good!

[TheStig]

I would be happy having just the money and time for a project like this. Haha

[M.Burroughs]

Are those angel eyes? I didn't take you as the angel eyes in an E36 kind of guy.

Can't wait until this thing is done.

It was like the first thing I got for the car, 4 years ago. I'd kill to have normal citylights- but I paid $550 for these ZKWs back in the days before DDM and such. I can't pull the housings open to remove the eyes either. :(

[e30bmw]

It was like the first thing I got for the car, 4 years ago. I'd kill to have normal citylights- but I paid $550 for these ZKWs back in the days before DDM and such. I can't pull the housings open to remove the eyes either. :(

Oh, well I have always liked angel eyes on E36s if they are done right.

[Schieldrop]

Are you going to run it on E46 wiring loom and ecu, with the emissions pump and everything from the E46? 'Cos if you don't use the emissions pump, original wiring loom and ECU the vanos and other cam timing will not be as effective, so you will in fact end up with a less powerful and less revvy S54. There's a guy near me running an S54 without these, and he in his own opinion F'ed up. He also had to resort to removing the vanos which really killed the S54s buzz. Not trying to be negative or imply you guys don't already know this. But using S50 parts and dropping some functions will make it less than it could've been.

[e30bmw]

Are you going to run it on E46 wiring loom and ecu, with the emissions pump and everything from the E46? 'Cos if you don't use the emissions pump, original wiring loom and ECU the vanos and other cam timing will not be as effective, so you will in fact end up with a less powerful and less revvy S54. There's a guy near me running an S54 without these, and he in his own opinion F'ed up. He also had to resort to removing the vanos which really killed the S54s buzz. Not trying to be negative or imply you guys don't already know this. But using S50 parts and dropping some functions will make it less than it could've been.

I remember reading that Mike was using everything out of the E46, down to the AC unit.

[Schieldrop]

Sounds good. No point doing things half way :)

[Bimmerteck]

Are you going to run it on E46 wiring loom and ecu, with the emissions pump and everything from the E46? 'Cos if you don't use the emissions pump, original wiring loom and ECU the vanos and other cam timing will not be as effective, so you will in fact end up with a less powerful and less revvy S54. There's a guy near me running an S54 without these, and he in his own opinion F'ed up. He also had to resort to removing the vanos which really killed the S54s buzz. Not trying to be negative or imply you guys don't already know this. But using S50 parts and dropping some functions will make it less than it could've been.


The car will not be in limp mode. (Like the guy near you is) We will be running the stock DME and the busses it requires are all there already, (I wired in the LKM, EWS III, and GM, as well as a few other goodies already;) ) Sounds like the guy near you should have hired a pro. :D The DME will be stock, but the coding of it will be altered to allow the engine to run without OBD II, and without traction control. Neither of which were ever offered in the US (but they were offered in other places :shifty )


Erik

[Schieldrop]

Good to know it's being done by someone with the right knowledge :)
Yeah, he really should, he has sent his car to munich motors in the UK now to get it done properly. His car is an E30 though. Thought the OBD II was standard everywhere for diagnosis purposes and what not. But then again BMW do sometimes mess up on the US models. Isn't it so that the E46 M3 in the US came with non drilled and slightly worse brakes than the euro version? And the fact that you didn't get the CSL is such a shame. One of the best drives of my life when I managed to borrow a CSL a couple of years ago.

[ECKS///M3]

Have you seen the Munich Motors build e30 M3 in PBMW? Thats done right.

On topic, how much power is the standard US e46 M3 engine putting out from the factory? I've never been beaten by an e46 M3 over here. It is a really responsive engine compared to mine though, just the extra e46 weight holds them back. Which means this e36 build will have the best of both worlds. :cool

[Schieldrop]

Don't really read PBMW. Don't like the articles and such. If I buy a BMW mag it's BMWCar.
Munich Motors are legendary, some of the best know how in the world.

[Bimmerteck]

Good to know it's being done by someone with the right knowledge :)
Yeah, he really should, he has sent his car to munich motors in the UK now to get it done properly. His car is an E30 though. Thought the OBD II was standard everywhere for diagnosis purposes and what not. But then again BMW do sometimes mess up on the US models. Isn't it so that the E46 M3 in the US came with non drilled and slightly worse brakes than the euro version? And the fact that you didn't get the CSL is such a shame. One of the best drives of my life when I managed to borrow a CSL a couple of years ago.


Well The bus is there for OBD II comunication and will still for for diagnosis and programming, but in the US it comes with a pile of Emissions BS that the rest ot the world doesn't get. (thanks California :mad ) Yes, you're correct we almost always end up with watered down sports cars compared to everywhere else. :(

[Schieldrop]

Kinda ironic that the land of the muscle car ended up being emission hell.
The E46 M3 was a step closer to euro than the whole E36 deal at least.
I think I read somewhere that in the US the E60 M5 is available with a manual?
And that if you opted for the manual the TC was not possible to switch of?
If so, that defeats the whole purpose of a manual if you ask me.

[ECKS///M3]

Believe me i very rarely buy any motoring mags but this is worth a read. This e30 even has a functional sport button from the e46 with fly by wire throttle. Its a serious build. It has also retained the original e30 dials. Very subtle. The big deal though is it also has an LPG conversion, filler is hidden behind the rear numberplate.

[Schieldrop]

Perhaps I'll have to pick it up tomorrow.
But in general the pics in PBMW and some of the cars are really cool.
The writing staff though, they should be sacked.

[ECKS///M3]

Agreed mate, the majority of writers in the UK 'scene' mags are shit. The e30 is one of the best cover cars i have seen though. It has a claimed 800mile touring range. I'd love to take an S54 e30 M3 like that across europe.

[Turbo2]

no update?

[Schieldrop]

Only mag I read every month is EVO.

[WhiteStripes]

OMG, I can't wait to see this thing done. Mike, your cars make me so jealous. Still can't believe you sold your 6, but if it helps get this thing on the road then it was worth it.

[Jedidiah]

Mike- I double-dog-dare you to bring this thing down for Stance of the Union.. ya, I just went there..

Ben

[M.Burroughs]

Mike- I double-dog-dare you to bring this thing down for Stance of the Union.. ya, I just went there..

Ben

I would do anything to make that happen.
Won't though, Unless by some miracle of god that we get the car finished by then... It should be finished, but probably wont be tuned, or even if it is, the motor will tear the subframe out from under the car if I flog on it before the reinforcements.

[Stephen]

I think it should remain hoodless and bumper less.

[B Rod]

It should be finished.
:eyebrows:devillook

[Dr.AK]

Agreed mate, the majority of writers in the UK 'scene' mags are shit.

Be glad you have not yeat read a german car magazine. Those writings are horrendous. In comparison, the UK writers are godlike.



That sounds like it's not that far off from getting this thing on the road Mike. It will be awesome once it's completed. I demand you ship it over here and beat it over the ring.

[WhiteStripes]

I would do anything to make that happen.
Won't though, Unless by some miracle of god that we get the car finished by then... It should be finished, but probably wont be tuned, or even if it is, the motor will tear the subframe out from under the car if I flog on it before the reinforcements.

Even though I know that's a bad thing, it still just sounds really cool haha. :D

[TheStig]

Even though I know that's a bad thing, it still just sounds really cool haha. :D

+1 hahahaha I kinda just wanna see that happen... but at the same time, I don't.

[romoguy8]

very nice project. I just cant wait for it to be done. Do you think you will have it finished so you can bring it down to the IA fall meet?

-Johnny

[schroedin]

+1 hahahaha I kinda just wanna see that happen... but at the same time, I don't.

I do, just not in Mike's car hahah

[c-ron]

Just stopping in to say I fucking love this car:D

[KarlSpackler]

Cmon Mike, I know your pain. Get it done bro!

[mo diesil]

cant wait

[BavarianMW94]

im so glad i came over to stanceworks...bfc is getting old and its nice to see something refreshing. i have noticed your participation at bfc is getting more and more sparse. im glad to see some updates on the s54! looking good and youre prob doing the best job anyone could ever do considering school, work, forums, meets and personal finances.

[michaele30]

That motor looks unbelievable in the e36......keep it going!

and now I have to go change my underwear.....LOL!

S54 FTW!!!

[Digitalwave]

It should be finished, but probably wont be tuned, or even if it is, the motor will tear the subframe out from under the car if I flog on it before the reinforcements.

If it's running an all-stock DME why would it need to be tuned? Or have I missed something along the way.

[Tony Soprano]

keep up the good work, its going to be one of the few S54 swaps done right.

[Bimmerteck]

If it's running an all-stock DME why would it need to be tuned? Or have I missed something along the way.

headers, lightweight flywheel, underdrive pulleys, and a few other slight changes.:shifty it needs a few fuel maps adjusted.:)

[Rose City]

Bf.c is about 10 days behind this thread :rofl

Good to see it finally getting complete. Must feel good.

[Digitalwave]

Good to see it finally getting complete. Must feel good.

wat

[EThirtySicks]

Oh stop it, you're making my E36 jealous.

[WhiteStripes]

Dear Mike,

Do work.


Sincerely,
Paul

[schroedin]

Aaaannnnyyyyttthhhiiinnnggg?

[Byron]

Have you seen the bolt on (plug on?) standalone kit for the s54 yet? Could be helpful for you if you are still having problems.

http://www.specialist-components.co.uk/cnb/shop/sconline?listPos=5&productID=107&op=catalogue-product_info-null&prodCategoryID=35

[Jules_W]

Sick project , i really love what you're doing to your e36 . I liked it better with those yellow cornering lights though :)

[M.Burroughs]

Standalone is the easy way out. I coulda had this ish done years ago if I had done that. :stickoutt

[TheStig]

Got any new pics at least? I just like looking at pictures :)

[schroedin]

Got any new pics at least? I just like looking at pictures :)

This. the real reason for the bump :rofl

[OEMPLU5]

Can't wait to ride in this beast :)

[TheStig]

Can't wait to ride in this beast :)

Sure... just rub it in :(

[ZiMMie]

Hey will it be ready for H20 International?

[Danno]

this is amazing...

makes me want to sell my hondas.. lol

[FluffywhiteM3]

annnndddddd....




(lol it's my turn to bump this and ask for updates and pics)

[Burn535i]

well now that you got rusty going again, lets see this thing get finished.

[kramerbuccs24]

bump, this car>* lets see some fucking progress.

[Mark Ostrowski]

bump, this car>* lets see some fucking progress.

.................................................. ...............................ok i'll be the one to say it...

you do realize this car was finished several months ago right?

[Jamil]

.................................................. ...............................ok i'll be the one to say it...

you do realize this car was finished several months ago right?
BS everyone knows it aint finished till its gone=p

[pavlo1994]

Can i get a higher res pic of the garage?

[NerdCore]

Was this ever finished?!

[MikeG]

yes it was search around there are pics