How to achive Bronze/Copper lips. Help [Archive]

Royal_T

12-03-2009, 02:01 PM

Ok so one of my friends is thinking about doing this, which I think is a sick idea and wish I thought about it first. But my question to you guys is what is the process on getting this look? Like this:

http://www.carbonvision.nl/uploads/images/Sema/Part%201/127.JPG

I was thinking that they just got the lips dipped in Bronze or Copper and call it a day. But then again I might be wrong.

So if any one has an idea on how to achive this look let me know thanks:D

Bimmerteck

12-03-2009, 02:05 PM

any shop that does chrome refinishing can plate them for you. One of the steps in a chrome finish is a copper bath. ;)

JSanders

12-03-2009, 02:10 PM

Looks cool, but I bet it is very high maintenance.

Royal_T

12-03-2009, 02:16 PM

So you would say this is copper platted and not Bronze platted..

I really like this look

Capt. Obvious

12-03-2009, 02:43 PM

Those wheels look like a candy/clear powdercoat on the lips.

If you were to bronze or copper coat the lips, you'd probably want to seal them or clear coat them right away since they will oxidize super fast.

vandol

12-03-2009, 03:06 PM

I'm not sure if it's the same idea with wheels but I get stuff like that anodized for my bike.

Love the idea though.

Bimmerteck

12-03-2009, 03:19 PM

It also looks more anodized to me but I'm not familiar witht he prcess other than what a pain it can be to remove sometimes.

tivs31

12-03-2009, 10:52 PM

1. Those are not copper lips.

2. I believe it's a dark orange annodized lip, which is actually pretty easy to do, you just have to find a shop that has that color in thier inventory. http://www.chicagoanodizing.com/ for reference I think you can actually see the color.

In order to rock a copper lip you'd need to first have it completely polished, 2nd go to a chromer and get it dipped in copper (first stage of chroming) and then get it really brightly polished again, and then immediatley go get the lips either painted or powdered or annodized to hold the finish.

Copper is prone to oxidation which turns raw copper from it's orange color into the color of the statue of liberty....

T to be honest, that might look incredibley hot on your car btw, white with white center and oxidized copper lips :eyebrows

tivs31

12-03-2009, 10:55 PM

even with the black centers you have now, it might look incredible, just give a hint of a green accent :eyebrows

tivs31

12-03-2009, 10:57 PM

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/TEE1652.jpg

Neb

12-04-2009, 02:34 PM

depending on the car, coffer would look cool once it turns green. Would look awesome on a rusty bmw or the like

phish sticks

12-04-2009, 10:23 PM

mhmm def. is not copper, but +1 to the oxidized lips would look sweet

BLKonBLK98

12-04-2009, 11:30 PM

http://daseighty.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2519&g2_serialNumber=1

plating (not mine).

Royal_T

12-05-2009, 01:11 PM

^^^ that looks sick, so is that copper plated? and was clear coated?

1badg35

12-05-2009, 03:48 PM

the was a build on the vortex for those futuras. they were on a b5 silver s4 in Jersey. off the top of my head, i think they were copper plated and then anodized clear. i will try to find the link

1badg35

12-05-2009, 03:53 PM

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3217242&page=16

J.Owen

12-05-2009, 05:24 PM

Copper ABT A9's.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/tracerturbo/P1017582.jpg

Royal_T

12-06-2009, 03:23 AM

Thanks for the link..

Ok I think I found an idea, for my friend. Works is actually coming out with bronze lips, talking to someone about them now he is going to let me know when and how much these lips well be for his Equips.. they look fresh. will let you guys know more info once I talk to him on Monday

Royal_T

12-10-2009, 12:43 PM

Ok the Works thing will not work.

So does anyone know of a good anodizing shop near them, or any anodizing shop in general. Let me know

salamanderxhead

12-10-2009, 12:45 PM

I want to see a picture of those calipers!

becker

12-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Copper ABT A9's.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/tracerturbo/P1017582.jpg
drool love these . they were on the moca roddo chrisbmx's right?

z33allme

12-11-2009, 07:34 AM

Any luck yet?

J.Owen

12-11-2009, 08:42 AM

drool love these . they were on the moca roddo chrisbmx's right?

Dave (bmx_rado) had the gold ones. These were on the silver corrado from EuroAutoSource.

Royal_T

12-11-2009, 12:23 PM

No luck yet I need to find an Anodizing shop some where, that does more then just primary colors..

Bimmerteck

12-11-2009, 12:31 PM

Chromemasters here in Nashville can do damn near anything.(they did the statue of liberty bike for OCC)

(615) 256-9828

schroedin

12-11-2009, 01:04 PM

depending on the car, coffer would look cool once it turns green. Would look awesome on a rusty bmw or the like

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/ebstealthdubbin/e30_bima/patina/drivers_rear_profile.jpg

BLKonBLK98

12-15-2009, 03:35 PM

^^^ that looks sick, so is that copper plated? and was clear coated?

not sure exactly how that was topcoated but you could do clear coat or clear powdercoat to keep them from corroding.

FluidMotorUnion

12-15-2009, 04:00 PM

Graffix

12-15-2009, 04:59 PM

i know to do the copper lips on my wheels im doing a polished lip followed by a custom candy powdercoat to get the copper look

bobbitt

12-16-2009, 01:39 PM

looks like paint and laquer to me !:)

Royal_T

12-16-2009, 03:15 PM

Edafe, I don't know why I didn't realize it first but I know the owner of that car. Ironically was just talking to him last night I can ask what he did with those if you'd like?

Yea Mike please ask him for me. That would help a lot. I'll txt you later on it

Petis

12-16-2009, 06:03 PM

they have "color chroming" available at a couple shops here in houston. any color you can think of. I was thinking about either a gold/bronze or teal.

SpinFin

12-16-2009, 09:53 PM

Maybe these guys can do something metallic towards the goal your lookin' for?

http://www.dip-tech.net/index-2.html

Their work looks wicked.

Royal_T

12-17-2009, 10:26 AM

Petis,

You got a name to that shop that does the chrome, would like to check it out...

SpinFin,

I have a friend that knows them well, I'm lookn in to Dip-Tech

Petis

12-17-2009, 09:15 PM

^here ya go buddy.

http://www.atlaschrome.com/

BLKonBLK98

12-18-2009, 07:47 PM

i was gonna bring them something but no warranty on multi-piece killed the deal.

Royal_T

12-19-2009, 12:44 AM

^^^ so just bring them the lip...lol

BLKonBLK98

12-19-2009, 11:23 AM

i may give them a call and see what they're talking about but "best effort basis" doesn't work for me. wonder what they'd say if i was going to pay on a best effort basis...

Nismofo

12-19-2009, 05:21 PM

You may want to look into powdercoating. You can shoot a candy powder over a polished part and clear coat it. here is an example:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/liquidnote/09%20pics/DSC_0064.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/liquidnote/09%20pics/DSC_0069.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/liquidnote/09%20pics/DSC_0070.jpg

z33allme

12-19-2009, 08:05 PM

Dip-tech has done some dope work before

ATX350

01-19-2010, 10:34 PM

Edafe, thanks for researching this for me.

It's been over a month now and I still haven't had any luck locating a shop that can anodize the lips for my wheels. I'm now considering shipping them somewhere so if anyone has any shops they can recommend I would appreciate it. I've contacted nearly 20 shops/companies in south Texas with no luck. Most people don't have tubs large enough or have the color I want.

Paint is not durable enough and powdercoating is the wrong finish. I'm only considering anodizing and plating right now.

The work lips are close to my vision:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4159142032_a0dfe4caa0.jpg

Bimmerteck

01-20-2010, 08:45 AM

Chromemasters here in Nashville can do damn near anything.(they did the statue of liberty bike for OCC)

(615) 256-9828

As I said before Chromemasters has plated entire motorcycle frames which are much larger than your lips so it would be no problem for them. Not to mention they are stand up guys.

http://www.chromemasters.com/

Erik

ATX350

01-21-2010, 04:29 PM

Thanks Erik. Anodizing is my first choice but I'll keep chromemasters in mind if I opt for plating.

After speaking with multiple companies I've come to realize that anodizing is not offered to the public. All 20+ companies have come back saying they work in bulk only. I've gone ahead and emailed Work about their anodized lips out of desperation.

Royal_T

01-21-2010, 06:03 PM

^^ Eric I already have a hook up for those WORK lips,,, I told you the price.. I can get those lips for your Equips if you like... Just give me the word..

ATX350

01-21-2010, 06:05 PM

I don't remember that conversation at all! Send me the details.

Bimmersmith

01-21-2010, 07:19 PM

Does anyone know if it would be possible to copper plate lips, let them oxidize partially, and then clear/powder over it to preserve them at a certain level of oxidation? Or would the oxidation that was already there screw up whatever you put over it?

ATX350

01-21-2010, 07:55 PM

^Good question. My initial response was, "I don't see why not" but I see your point now. Its possible that the layer of oxidation could cause problems allowing the clear coat to bond with the wheel surface.