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jonnytruant
08-01-2011, 08:16 PM
looking for some advice on converting my separate shock/spring setup to bags. I have done some research and I know that I am going to have to make a custom bracket, as there is no setup for my car. I also know that I just need to replace the springs with bags.

How many valves do I need? One for each separate corner?

Also I am afraid of spending all this cash and having a ride that is too soft. How can I prevent this?

thanks in advance

Rali@BagRiders
08-02-2011, 09:48 AM
What kind of car do you have? If you don't want the car to get 'wishywashy' in the corners, you will need to go with an 8 valve setup. In a 4 valve setup, the front two bags will run off of the same valves while the rear two bags will run off of the other two valves. In corners, air can flow from one bag to the other giving you body roll. 8 valves mean that each bag will work independently and air wont transfer to the other side of the car which will give you a nice ride.

jonnytruant
08-02-2011, 11:29 AM
What kind of car do you have? If you don't want the car to get 'wishywashy' in the corners, you will need to go with an 8 valve setup. In a 4 valve setup, the front two bags will run off of the same valves while the rear two bags will run off of the other two valves. In corners, air can flow from one bag to the other giving you body roll. 8 valves mean that each bag will work independently and air wont transfer to the other side of the car which will give you a nice ride.

Ok thanks, that is a BIG help. The car is a 1993 Saab 900.

onverted to run Trionic 5 :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2142/5805294437_2d57d156f5_b.jpg

best shot I have right now:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/5805293883_239242742a_z.jpg

Here is my other car that has static drop.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5784285119_db60b6cc40_b.jpg


There also seems to be a whole bunch of different types of bags out there: sleeved, single/double/triple convolute, rolling lobe...etc.

Are there advantages and disadvantages to each or are they used for more specific applications?

Lastly, what is the advantage of a running two compressors instead of one? Backup? or does it just deal with how heavy the car is?

Rali@BagRiders
08-02-2011, 12:04 PM
There also seems to be a whole bunch of different types of bags out there: sleeved, single/double/triple convolute, rolling lobe...etc.

Are there advantages and disadvantages to each or are they used for more specific applications?

Lastly, what is the advantage of a running two compressors instead of one? Backup? or does it just deal with how heavy the car is?

Yeah there are a ton of universal bags out there but it really depends on the setup they're going on. I would suggest going with Slam Specialties RE-5's or 6's (depending on how much clearance you have). A lot of guys like to run the Universal Air Air House II's because they go a bit lower than most universal bags but depending on how you make your mounts you may run into rubbing issues because the bag sort of folds over the mounting plates. The RE-5's and 6's don't fold into themselves so that might be the safer way to go.

When it comes to the amount of compressors, it really only has to do with fill times. If you run dual compressors, your fill times will almost be split in half but it isn't necessary. It pretty much depends on how long you want to hear your compressors running, but you will definitely be fine with one compressor and a 5 gallon tank.

soab
08-02-2011, 10:53 PM
Im commenting in this partly to be subscribed and cause Im stoked to see another Saab 900 bagged!! I wanna say greyspg on the regular Saab forums bagged his SPG, you might want to talk to him about bag mounts.

jonnytruant
08-03-2011, 05:10 PM
Yeah there are a ton of universal bags out there but it really depends on the setup they're going on. I would suggest going with Slam Specialties RE-5's or 6's (depending on how much clearance you have). A lot of guys like to run the Universal Air Air House II's because they go a bit lower than most universal bags but depending on how you make your mounts you may run into rubbing issues because the bag sort of folds over the mounting plates. The RE-5's and 6's don't fold into themselves so that might be the safer way to go.

When it comes to the amount of compressors, it really only has to do with fill times. If you run dual compressors, your fill times will almost be split in half but it isn't necessary. It pretty much depends on how long you want to hear your compressors running, but you will definitely be fine with one compressor and a 5 gallon tank.

thanks for the tips, I will keep all this in mind as I do some more research.

and soab yea I am pretty pumped to do this going to be a little while though.