Just a Saturn

[saturnstance]

Figured i'd start a build thread to keep track of progress and ideas. \

1992 Saturn SL2(1.9L DOHC, Auto)

Got the car when i was 15 from my dad,84,000. Added 17" Drag Dr-17's. Which are long gone.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll44/hess2009/IMG_0426.jpg

In my posession:
-Progress Lowering Springs(2" drop all around)
-Bored Throttle Body
-Black Saturn Badges
-AMR Front Strut Bat

Future plans:
-Coil-overs
-AMR Sway Bar Kit
-Diamond Racing Wheels (15x8) w/ Spacers
-First gen. bumper w/stock fog lights
-5 spd conversion
-rear disc conversion
-New Paint

Comments, criticisms and Ideas welcome.

[WhiteStripes]

Interesting. I've never seen anyone do anything with Saturns. Even the people who buy the Redline Ion's around here keep them stock. I guess the Sky would be the exception.

Looking forward to more progress.

[Ollie]

Why not get wider wheels? I doubt it would cost much more since diamond racing specializes in any custom size and offset. Why not dumped on 16x10s or 17x9s or something along those lines? I'd be interested to see that.

[saturnstance]

im sure 16x10's wouldn't look bad. i have to go home and measure and do alot of figuring to try and get an idea i guess

[Oscar]

No, slammed on 15x8/9 with no spacers would be sick. Well as sick as a Saturn can get.

[SeanDub]

He's not slamming it.

Get wide 16's

[saturnstance]

Wide 16's is probably where i'll end up. and yes, im not slamming it.





yet:shifty

[saturnstance]

So, i've made the decision that most of you advised me to, ill roll around on the springs for now and just save save save for coilovers. theres two companies that make them for saturns, one is priced at $995 the other close to $2000 haha. maybe ill get the wheels before, or at the same time.

[saturnstance]

Alright, i've decided im going to skip the springs, just sell them for what i bought them for, and just save my ass off and do it right the first time.

[D-LEM]

i can picture this looking really sweet... I'll definitely be watching! Best of luck with the project :cool

[saturnstance]

thanks! im just as excited. this place has kicked my ass into gear with it haha

[EThirtySicks]

Definitely interested to see where this could go. I see you're getting rid of those fogs, that's good.

[saturnstance]

mhmm. i'll be picking up the same bumper but with the factory fog lights.

[saturnstance]

Is there a place that i could find a possible list of cars with a bolt pattern of 4x100? i looked through Google and it was useless.I know most Civis are, i believe miatas too.

[schroedin]

And E30s :eyebrows

[saturnstance]

haha ok. since i've decided im gonna do this right the first time..im just planning ahead and trying to find something off the wall wheel wise, if i can't settle it'll be the diamond racing steelies.

[saturnstance]

something different...http://www.potn.co.uk/watermark1~POTN~images/borbet/M-a-silver-425x425.jpg

[Dr.AK]

Do it. Borbet As make almost anything look good.

Go with a staggered setup though, 7.5s and 9s.

[Stephen]

e30s and earlier VWs are 4x100.

= youre fine.

[saturnstance]

all i know, whatever wheel i chose, itll be wide.

[saturnstance]

i won't lie. i do like these..http://www.tunershop.com/Wheels/15_inches/Ronal_Turbo_x100_103x_p220836.html
but i dont think there wide enough. sorry if im not posting real progress or anything. just bouncing around ideas. the saving is already started, im quarter of the way there haha

[WhiteStripes]

While I do love Ronal Turbo's and Borbet A's, I'm not really sure they'll work too well with the lines on the Saturn. Could be completely wrong though.

[saturnstance]

i agree . the more i looked and thought about it. i want something that will just flow

[bjh102]

dude do the steelies! it will look really good. glad you realized that springs would be a waste of time and money. just do it right the first time. coilovers!
i can see this being really sweet.

[saturnstance]

yeah im leaning more towards them. 16x9

[saturnstance]

Final Decision. Coilovers +Diamond Racing Steelies(Gold Vein Centers, Polishes Lips)

[Chase]

Do it!!!!!

[saturnstance]

haha i AM!

[saturnstance]

i like having options. so, being that with the amount of wheel knowledge on this site. i'd like to have a second option besides the diamond racing ones. Ideas please!

[sergov]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2945/rds2.jpg

[SeanDub]

Whats your price range?

[saturnstance]

So, i dont have photoshop so i used paint.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll44/hess2009/sl2.jpg
i couldnt put wheels on there, if someone could maybe do that for me? haha but here it is.

[D-LEM]

Diamond Racing wheels look really good, I personally love the way they look with the polished lips. However, I've heard of lots of problems with them going out of true/warping pretty easily, since they aren't totally meant for day to day driving on roads w/ potholes, dips, etc. My buddy has a set on his rabbit, and they warped pretty quick. :( He still runs them cause they look pretty good.

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff354/8vGLI4life/eugenesrabbit.jpg

I really think Ronal Turbos could look cool on your car if you ran some spacers! I had a set on my mk2 GLI, and I loved them. I ran them with the Federal 165/45 tires and they looked pretty rad.

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff354/8vGLI4life/DSC_0980.jpg

Hope this helps a bit, and GL with your wheel search. Looking forward to seeing updates on this project :cool

[saturnstance]

thanks. i won't really start buying parts until i can order it all at once. since winter is soon approaching itll give me some time to save.

[saturnstance]

shit, seandub, totally missed your post. in all honesty, my price range originally was not to go over $500. i then realized that was kind of unreasonable. so i would like not to go over $1,000

[saturnstance]

in my ever quest to find a set of wheels. i came across these..i dont think they're knock offs of anything. i could be wrong.
http://www.performancealloys.com/details.asp?procedure=wheel&id_wheels=%27Eros%20Light%20Gold%27&id_wheels_manufacturers=%27Cades%20%27&id_wheels_sizes=%2716x7%27&price=%27112%27&permission=42497085

[SeanDub]

Look like HRE knockoffs to me

[saturnstance]

i was looking ath HRE's and you seem to be right. couldnt really tell. why is it so hard to choose? haha

[SeanDub]

With a budget of $1k or less, get the DR steelies, or hunt on craigslist. Nice wheels are more than that.

[saturnstance]

i know. my problem is i have no patience haha

[EThirtySicks]

i know. my problem is i have no patience haha

Haha join the club man, I'm still looking for the right wheels. The problem is I have expensive taste and don't have the money to back it up.

[saturnstance]

oh i know. haha if i have to rock stockers with spacers til i save up for wheels so be it. i keep reading how bad the steelies are with bends and warp

[Morbid]

However, I've heard of lots of problems with them going out of true/warping pretty easily,

I think they're designed for tracks, so they are pretty soft, but I've heard they make them for street use too if you ask for it. You just tell them you want to use them on public roads or whatever, but then they have to make them. I think it takes like a few weeks for them to finish the set and I'm not sure if it costs extra.

I read about it on clubnico like 2 years ago so I would look into it some as I probably don't remember some of it correctly or something might have changed since then.

[Morbid]

And dude I just looked it up and your car has a 4x100 lug pattern, right? Check VW Vortex, they have a section for 4x100 wheels F/S in the vw classifieds and audi classifieds. Also check e30 forums. You shouldn't have much trouble finding nice wheels for a good price. The only thing you might have trouble with is figuring out the right width's and offsets to have a nice fitment, since I don't think there is much info on saturns as far as how fat of a wheel or how low of an offset wheel you can fit.

[Stephen]

Buy my type As lol, theyre well under a grand.

[saturnstance]

haha yes 4x100. and my only concern is when i go low, every panel is effing plastic haha. idk if you can roll or pull that. ill check vortex see what i can find.

[schroedin]

haha yes 4x100. and my only concern is when i go low, every panel is effing plastic haha. idk if you can roll or pull that. ill check vortex see what i can find.

wat :rofl

[saturnstance]

shit you not, the hood, roof, and trunk are metal. the body panels are plastic. took sledge to the sides, bounced right of no dents or paint crack.

[Stephen]

wtf thats kinda awesome. just cut the inner fender lip off then, not like itll rust

[saturnstance]

true, i could just cut it haha. its nice, i've backed into things and bumped things plenty of times. no damage.

[saturnstance]

a lot of interesting wheels for sale on VWvortex, when the time comes ill have to stalk that section haha

[WhiteStripes]

Lol yeah I remember the old Saturn commercial where the kids were playing baseball and the balls kept hitting the guys door and he comes out all mad because the kid didn't know how to hit, not because the balls were hitting his car.

[B Rod]

^HAHA! I remember that!

[saturnstance]

never saw it haha

[saturnstance]

Hopefully, by may. i'll have Coilovers, Spacers, and wheels. If everything goes as planned.

[Morbid]

Just slam that shit on the wheels you want and sawzall whatever gets in the way.

[saturnstance]

haha yeah. the wheels ill eventually figure out.

[saturnstance]

So, thinking about it more. Im saving a ton of $$$, pinching pennies in college is easy. wheels are gonna be BBS rs'. when the time comes for anyone who cares. i have it in my head it'll look real sweet.

[saturnstance]

i know their not wide but i like the look and their in ok condition. i think with a polished lip and maybe a powdercoated center they'd look good. opinons?

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4610638

[vdubkid]

shit, 6 inches wide? they look good but get something wider

[saturnstance]

do they make Porsche wheels in 4x100? theres a style i like, and i cant find a picture of them

[saturnstance]

nevermind, answered my own question haha i would need adapters.

[saturnstance]

I know i ask a lot of questions..but im just curious and wanna do things right. My new question is, are adapters bad to use? like, are their downfalls to using them?

[saturnstance]

i dont have photoshop, but i do have paint haha
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll44/hess2009/sl2.jpg

[Dr.AK]

I know i ask a lot of questions..but im just curious and wanna do things right. My new question is, are adapters bad to use? like, are their downfalls to using them?


No, adapters are fine, lots of people run them, especially 4x100 to 5x130 (Porsche bolt pattern).

Only think I would be wary of, would be putting two adapters over each other, (i.e. to get a 4x100 to take on BMW wheels with 5x120 -> you would have to run 4x100 to 5x100 and then 5x100 to 5x120 on top of that because the 5x120 and 4x100 patterns would overlap). I wouldn't do that.

[saturnstance]

Toying with ideas..
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll44/hess2009/sl2s.jpg

[saturnstance]

random..do they make audi wheels, replicas 4x100 at all?

[WhiteStripes]

It looks pretty good with those STi wheels.

Not sure about 4x100 Audi reps...

[saturnstance]

has anyone on here ever ordered/dealt with performancealloys.com?

[Chase]

you can get adapters to run audi wheels i bbelieve

[saturnstance]

true. im just having difficulty figuring out what wheels i want to eventually go with.

[PavelK313]

true. im just having difficulty figuring out what wheels i want to eventually go with.

Didn't you say you want RS's?

[saturnstance]

i would love them..but it would take forever for me to save for them haha

[TrUcKeR]

long thread with no content. boooooooooooooo.

please update us when you accomplish something. ;)

[saturnstance]

long thread with no content. boooooooooooooo.

please update us when you accomplish something. ;)

Ordered rear spacers, and will order coilovers this week. accomplished something finally.

[Dom_J]

good job bro, can't wait to see pics...do the plastic proud! haha

[saturnstance]

Thanks haha. i'll do my best.

[EThirtySicks]

Make sure you get pics up ASAP!

[UnitedWeStance...]

which coilovers did you get? nice to see another saturn on here!

[saturnstance]

Agility

[saturnstance]

So, i don't post much because working 3 jobs and being a full time student takes up most of my time..

Need a little help before i order everything.

The coilovers, agility, that im going with have spring rates of 600(rear)/800(front). i can get custom spring rates when i order, should i? will it benefit me for going lower? if so, what springs rated are best?

[M.Burroughs]

Don't do those wheels. :(

[saturnstance]

Nevermind..i know what you were a fan of..so..

http://workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/27/78/colors/127.jpg

[saturnstance]

Nothing ground breaking..doing more research before i go balls in..could someone explain to me spring rates on coilovers? as in, what is better for "stance". High/low and whatnot? would be appreciated.

[Mattphi]

Oh man.

[saturnstance]

Sorry if it's a stupid question

[Mark Ostrowski]

go with the dr steelies ima fan, on a side note this build needs moar pics

[saturnstance]

Lock it up, delete whatever..picking up a late 80's bmw next week.

[schroedin]

:D

[CSBolger]

Lock it up, delete whatever..picking up a late 80's bmw next week.

**** to say it, but this is definitely one of the better possible outcomes.

[flodubba]

this thread is crap. just one guy telling people what he wants to get. no offense, and I don't mean to be an ass but I'm pissed going through 4 pages of "i think I'll get these" or "i think I'll get that".... JUST DO IT! I'm a soldier working full time from the crack of dawn to till whenever the hell they say go home... bishes... Anyways, you're choice in car for stance is suspect. Good luck!

[saturnstance]

I would just do it..but when im paying for a 4 year college and trying to pay my own bills..my paychecks are swallowed up..but thanks for your opinion..i guess.

[Kamoflewuage]

there are some really bad builds popping up in here, glad this is being aborted

[Han]

Lock it up, delete whatever..picking up a late 80's bmw next week.

Done.